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Bill: Police/Military Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2309
Description[?]:
Dear Member of the August Parliament of the Cedar Throne After recently bill toward military and police; I believe using Military as a de-facto police is a wrong way to train the army. Every democracy country in the world know that the using military as a police is an act of a country that is moving toward Dictatorship and we will not tolerated with this crime aganist the democracy of the Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth. We ask for the parliament to vote yes for this bill in order to regain democracy to this country. Bill Description Police should be civilian and will have a diffrent position in this country from the military. I agree that our military have to gets some training but using them as a police won't help them. They need more funding to get better training and weapon. Police should no longer have military-grade weapon and all military-grade weapon will be strip and return to the Military Force apart from the Special Weapon And Tactical Team that should be named "Pontesian Police Rescue and Assault Team" (PRAAT) can have the military-grade weapon. Other Police unit will have only standard firearm like Glock 17. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers carry military-grade equipment.
Current: Police officers carry military-grade equipment.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 17:35:19, November 02, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Police/Military Bill |
Message | We vehemently disagree. |
Date | 18:38:18, November 02, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Police/Military Bill |
Message | Mr Speaker, Pontesi is not some kind of third world tin-pot dictatorship, we are a civilised nation that does not require our policemen to carry machineguns on duty. I agree that specially trained firearms units should operate in certain situations, however. |
Date | 16:11:30, November 03, 2006 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Police/Military Bill |
Message | After see your reaction toward this bill proposal and to current situation in the country Ive decide to modify this bill from weapon bill to military and police bill. Modified 16:09:31, November 03, 2006 CET |
Date | 12:53:38, November 04, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Police/Military Bill |
Message | Mr Speaker, If I may address an active mute as such, One second the Pontesian nation is shocked by a terrorist attack on its land and the ONCP and ETPRP call for sweeping new general restrictions in order to put out the SUBCell threat, now they proclaim that these measures aren't needed and scoff at the suggestions in hypocracy. It may not be a tinpot country, but with the memories of goldfish these right members seem to possess, it will be if they continue to make such assertions based on blaseé indecision! Let us not forget that the parties involved may not even be able to remember three seconds, but the three years of Bygsmy-Smythe seem to be shaping into a bad era the Pontesian people will want to forget! |
Date | 12:57:56, November 05, 2006 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Police/Military Bill |
Message | Mr Speaker, When I propose that bill you are the one who stand aganist it and now when i want to relax the law you aganist it again. I really don't understand your position. I understand the SUBCell threat need to be take care of, but puting solider on the street isn't the answer and you were the one who say in that bill that we should not overreact to the attack because that is what they wanted. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes | Total Seats: 89 | ||
no | Total Seats: 92 | ||
abstain | Total Seats: 210 |
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