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Bill: SLP - Separation of Church and State
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2309
Description[?]:
| The state has no business promoting religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:55:03, November 03, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the SLP - Separation of Church and State |
| Message | With the present law the state DOES NOT promote religion. The state safeguards the traditional religion of Lusitânia and Lusitanians - Catholicism. The SLP has a particular trait which is its misunderstanding of laws... |
| Date | 18:59:29, November 03, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Separation of Church and State |
| Message | Sorry but when the state declares an official state religion that is not religious impartiality. And you are also contradicting yourself. You say this law does not promote religion but it safeguards the traditional religion of Lusitania. By safeguarding it is promoting. Besides... a recent poll suggests that there is no traditional religion in Lusitania. http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewnews.php?nation=13 17.64% There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory. 27.81% There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary. 42.78% There is no government policy concerning a state religion. 11.77% Any form of religion is banned. A vast majority of over 54% say that there should be at least no official state religion. You are wrong. As always. |
| Date | 19:00:40, November 03, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Separation of Church and State |
| Message | Just because your party wants there to be a traditional state religion does not mean there should be. The people have spoken through the polls. |
| Date | 23:39:33, November 03, 2006 CET | From | Partito Nazionale | To | Debating the SLP - Separation of Church and State |
| Message | SLP calm dow because you are quoting a poll not a referendum. |
| Date | 00:48:35, November 04, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Separation of Church and State |
| Message | The polls is indicative on how Lusitanians feel. While it naturally does not have any official legislative value it demonstrates that the majority disagrees with the current state policy. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 138 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 162 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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