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Bill: Adoption Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: LibCom Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2077
Description[?]:
| Those wishing to adopt children must meet certain standards to ensure the children's safety. These standards are to be set at the local level, but capable parents must not be excluded on the basis of their current relationship status or sexuality. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning adoption.
Old value:: Adoption is not regulated.
Current: Regulation is used to screen out only those with a previous history of child abuse.
Proposed: Adoption policy is to be established by local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Only heterosexual couples and singles may adopt children.
Current: Only couples may adopt children.
Proposed: Everyone may adopt children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:11:57, July 04, 2005 CET | From |  Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Agreed on article 1, tentative agreement on article 2 so long as experts deem that it is in the child's best interest to live with the person/persons who wish to adopt. |
| Date | 15:40:32, July 04, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Under the proposal, it would be up to the local community to decide what's in the child's best interest. It doesn't make any sense for central government to limit their options to people of a particular sexual orientation. |
| Date | 18:25:21, July 04, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | support, it seems to be a good mix of local control with the defense of an individual's rights. |
| Date | 18:35:34, July 04, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | you have our support on this. |
| Date | 19:01:58, July 04, 2005 CET | From | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | We support article 1 without hesitation. We cannot support article 2. The heterosexual family is the nucleus of our society. This article is complete irony. If individuals want to have children, why not procreate with a member of the opposite sex? To choose a lifestyle where you will never have the ability to have children with your "partner" -- and then want to want to adopt a child makes no sense. |
| Date | 19:12:52, July 04, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Sexual orientation is not a matter of choice for most people, but even if it was, there's no reason to believe it would have any effect on a person's ability to raise children. If a child is up for adoption, it should be placed with whomever is best suited to raise it. |
| Date | 00:26:41, July 05, 2005 CET | From | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | We will agree to disagree with LibCom. |
| Date | 00:51:13, July 05, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | We dislike article one, but will agree to pass this bill. We see no reason to have local governments dealing with adoption policy. |
| Date | 02:36:38, July 05, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | The main issue with homosexual couple adopting is schoolmates ridiculing the child. Which, EM, you are doing nothing to eliminate. |
| Date | 11:33:48, July 05, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | That's precisely the sort of issue that local communities are in the best position to assess, as attitudes vary widely across the nation. |
| Date | 12:31:09, July 05, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | well, we would just like to point out that in many countries same sex couples have succesfully adopted children (ooc: in RL too, even the USA) furthermore, it is the opinion of this party that we leave the determination of who can adopt children up to experts who have far more experience in their line of work and are paid to look after the interests of the child and not the parents. as for the issue about local governments, we agree with the SRP. It seems that a national body would be better suited. and we fundamentally believe that adoption should not be withheld based on the assumption that the child may get bullied in school for having same sex parents. it is absolutely the wrong approach to creating a society that is more tolerant. in order for people to understand each other they must be exposed to different people and ideas. |
| Date | 20:53:27, July 05, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Experts or not, those deciding who can adopt children should have direct knowledge of the community in which the child is being placed. We agree in principle with the FRP's stance that adoption should not be withheld based on possible bullying, but in practice the safety of the child must take precedence over our ideological preferences. In any case, as per the proposal, we will not restrict adoption on the grounds of the parents' sexuality. |
| Date | 20:26:02, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Radical Centrists | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | We support. |
| Date | 01:07:18, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | What I mean was, the only possible grounds to oppose #2 was becuase of bulling, and that EM was just fueling it. Of course, we aren't going to oppose it. |
| Date | 01:26:21, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | SRP - How wrong you are. It has nothing to do with schoolmates teasing children of same sex couples. Homosexuality is amoral and should not be condoned, especially by the state. We will not support homosexuality of any kind. And the word isn't "bulling", its "bullying" which is just what the gay agenda is all about. Anyone who disagrees with it is accused of being a homophobe or, many times, worse. Why can't the EM disagree with homosexuality without raising the ire of the SRP and the LibComs? Is it not the left-conscious that promotes "tolerance"? Or is it only ok to tolerate the issues you personally believe in? |
| Date | 16:25:44, July 07, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Everything should be tolerated except intolerance. So homosexuality, for example, should be tolerated, but your intolerance toward it should not. Pretty simple, really. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 69 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 2 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 29 |
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