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Bill: Fireworks Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: TSDRP

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2317

Description[?]:

An act ensuring the public are safe from accidents with large fireworks, which could be very damaging

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:44:43, November 21, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the Fireworks Act
MessageAs we mentioned in the alcohol debate, licensing/regulation does not "ensure" safety. All it does is benefit the friends of the government at the expense of those who are not friends of the administration.

In actual fact, this will have the opposite effect. Safety arises where the incentives of safe acting exceed the disincentives. On a free market this is provided by supply and demand (demand for safe fireworks exceeds the demand for unsafe fireworks and consequently the chargeable price for safe fireworks exceeds the saleable price for unsafe fireworks). Furthermore, a trader who blows up his customers does not get a whole lot of repeat business, whereas a trader who does not blow up his customers does.

This is thrown out when the government misrepresents to the public that specially selected government friends are safer than non-friends. People will purchase from the 'professionals' because that is the only market. The government has no particular incentive to protect the public - after all, the more people who get blown up, the more power the government can claim to need, and the more 'protection' it can provide at the public's involuntary expense.

Date20:56:22, November 21, 2006 CET
From TSDRP
ToDebating the Fireworks Act
MessageYou carry on with your distrust of my government. All i know is we've ruled this country for the past 12 years and we're still respected. Therfore we have a mandate to carry out what reforms we see fit.

Date23:14:01, November 22, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the Fireworks Act
MessagePlease understand that our party does not distrust your government any more or less than any other government. Government is inherently evil, being nothing more than robbery and violence. This seems to suit you quite well.

Congratulations on still being respected. You've managed to reward a sufficient number of people with the plunder you loot from society to continue to get their support. That's a real accomplishment.

Actually, you have, at best, a mandate to pass any reforms you see fit that affect only the mob who support you. Surely you cannot believe that those who voted against you support your reforms? I guess your perspective is that the ruler of a democracy has an obligation (or at least the legitimate authority) to victimise a minority so long as it is to the pleasure of the majority.

Date23:21:43, November 22, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the Fireworks Act
MessageWe should also point out that while it is true that we are suspicious of the motives of government, that we expect corruption, aggression, theft and malice from those who have and seek power; we also believe that this bill will not achieve its stated objectives irrespective of the moral leanings of the rulers.

Even if we assume that your first and only concern is the safety of Trigunian citizens, this bill would be counterproductive because any act which interferes with the individual's legitimate rights of self-ownership causes, on balance, poorer decision-making than would otherwise be the case. This is because central control destroys market information, it prevents people from making rational risk/reward decisions (even if they had the information to do so) and infantilises people (and their capacity for making rational decisions). All of this applies equally even in the case of benevolent dictators.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 305

no
 

Total Seats: 137

abstain
 

Total Seats: 113


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