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Bill: Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic English Labour Reform Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2324
Description[?]:
This bill asks for the ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 10:05:44, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Democratic English Labour Reform Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | OOC: I am going to be away as you know I posted that for like till Sunday, so I wont be able to put this to a vote so be patient. |
Date | 15:47:19, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | no, we will not support a failed Deltarian rebellion and cause more of an international mess |
Date | 21:20:45, November 22, 2006 CET | From | National Arab Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | A failed Deltarian rebellion? Failed is past tense. We are failin- [The UDRoK repersentative is dragged off and replaced by another one] We simply need support. We are at the brink of breaking free, just you see. We need support. That and it would divert resources from the expected conflict. It would be naive to think that Deltaria won't attack if you simply leave them alone. They are conquering a nation per decade. And you? You must be the one who turns your head away and hope the wolves will leave you alone. Only the world will satisfy their hunger. There is a international mess and it plans to absorb you. |
Date | 22:12:55, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | It's not an issue of should we help Kafuristan win independence, the obvious answer is yes. However, we need to ask ourselves can we help Kafuristan's resistance win their independence. The answer, unfortunately at this time, is no. We do not have the intelligence assets to launch major covert actions. Nor does the Kanjoran Confederation have any significant amounts of material to spare, especially since we're rebuilding our own armed forces and preparing our own defenses. This Declaration will only bring on a Deltarian invasion as the Ultranationalist Party predicts and we are not prepared at this time. The provincial militias will be organized in six months after we pass the bill. However, we're having elections in about a month so that goes by the waistside and we've got one party against war with Deltaria at pretty much all costs. We've just begun collecting the taxes for enlarging the Revolutionary Army and that's going to take a few years if we do it right. Rebuilding our spy agency to conduct covert operations on foreign soil will have to start after the election. So I recommend deferring this until after the election at the very least. |
Date | 22:14:53, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | Finally, some questions about the Kafuristani resistance. Are there some factions who agree with the destruction of the French Union and this nation? If there are, does the True Government of Kafuristan plan on neutralizing them? |
Date | 22:53:00, November 22, 2006 CET | From | National Arab Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | The KLP must understand that Deltaria will invade your nation anyway. You have just stated you want them to invade when your prepared. Since when Deltaria will invade when your prepared? They certainly didn't wait until Kafuristan is prepared, it was one massive blitzkrieg and overwhelming subversion. Furthermore, after being in the resistance business, we can offer help regarding your intelligence agency. We have contacts, and if Deltaria didn't stomp us out by now, we certainly are doing sometthing right. Some groups we deal with don't usually support the FU. Some politicians elected from villages and towns we control don't really support the FU either. But your forgetting something, we are the last surviving strand of democracy in Kafuristan, if we stamp out political dissident and refuse to deal with groups simply due to their political stances in these desperate transitionary times, then how will the True Government of Kafuristan return to power without support? Without support from disagreeable groups? Without support from disagreeable people? If you begin sending aid, we may be able to break ties and rely more on Kanjor than them. If this nation's Defence Ministry wishes to contact us regarding clandestine support, send it to our Message Center. |
Date | 04:25:04, November 24, 2006 CET | From | Vonkajšíci | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=88454 |
Date | 01:54:00, December 04, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | We will not support the Kafuristanti efforts |
Date | 01:01:17, December 05, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | This is irrelevant. |
Date | 02:20:15, December 05, 2006 CET | From | Democratic English Labour Reform Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Declaration of Support for the Legitimate Government of Kafuristan |
Message | Yes I know I just well put it to a vote. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||
no | Total Seats: 79 | ||
abstain | Total Seats: 121 |
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