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Bill: Recommendations from the Ministry of Justice
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Imperial Hobrazian Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2333
Description[?]:
| AFTER a careful review of the Hobrazian legal system and policies that pertain to the Ministry of Justice, the Minister of Justice Paige McConnell offers the following reforms. ARTICLE I: The Republic of Hobrazia shall now compensate victims of eminent domain in a fair and just manner. The person's property that has been nationalized will be given monetary compensation, to be determined by an appraiser. If the victim deems the amount to be unfair, then he or she may sue the Republic in a court of law. ARTICLE II: The Republic shall henceforth cease all active searches for illegal aliens, with the exception of those wanted for violations of a non-immigration statute. This will benefit the Ministry of Internal Affairs, as their officers can now focus police resources on real crime issues. ARTICLE III: The Republic shall henceforth cease the practice of torture. Studies indicate that testimony received from tortured individuals is highly inaccurate because the said individual is motivated to provide any answer that will appease the torturers, regardless of the validity of the claims made. Furthermore, this practice is barbaric and unfit for a great nation like Hobrazia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Eminent domain compensation (if eminent domain is legal).
Old value:: The government does not compensate victims of eminent domain.
Current: A neutral body appointed by the courts determines the compensation, either party may appeal.
Proposed: The government determines compensation for victims of eminent domain; victims can sue if they deem it unfair.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Current: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:02:42, December 22, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Recommendations from the Ministry of Justice |
| Message | We can only accept article 1! Concerning article 2: It should not be the role of ordinary civilians, food inspectors and other administrative personel to report such situations, we should continue to operate an active unit (in same style as the food inspectors) that visit companies to search for illegal aliens. Concerning article 3: It showed that the Hobrazian Intelligence Agency were able to investigate and solve several spying incidents with the guidelines provided by our laws. Therefore we see no reason for this to be removed. There is a guarantee in the laws, that torture must only be used where information is vital. It is not a normal procedure, but only when life or the security of the nation is at risk. |
| Date | 18:18:06, December 22, 2006 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Recommendations from the Ministry of Justice |
| Message | A "vital situation" is extremely vague and open to interpretation, and there is no evidence that the spy intelligence would have been procured without the use of torture. |
| Date | 21:44:32, December 22, 2006 CET | From | Marxist-Socialist Party of Hobrazia | To | Debating the Recommendations from the Ministry of Justice |
| Message | We agree with all three articles especiallly article 3 |
| Date | 05:13:12, December 23, 2006 CET | From | HSP (Hobrazian Socialist Party) | To | Debating the Recommendations from the Ministry of Justice |
| Message | MSoH? You agree with a strict regime for compensating people who lose stuff because society needs it? Crazy. Agree with 2 & 3 so will agree on the whole. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 184 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 209 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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