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Bill: Safe Communities Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2082
Description[?]:
| To control the increasing gang menace in our inner cities, we propose to give powers to the police to disperse and challenge gangs in the cities. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Current: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Proposed: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:08:52, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | We will support this act. |
| Date | 10:21:06, July 12, 2005 CET | From | mutt Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | No. |
| Date | 13:48:07, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | 'poses a potential risk' is a sentence with a controversial meaning and easily to interpret. We will vote no! |
| Date | 15:40:53, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | But that means that police can also break up peaceful protests. While we understand the importance of the gang threat, we can't just allow this. This will infringe upon the rights of the majority who obey the law. |
| Date | 17:18:14, July 12, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | This bill applies specifically to gangs, not just any protest. I have defined it as such, so it doesn't give police any authority to break up peaceful protests. Gangs usually identify themselves by travelling in groups and identifying themselves with colors or tatoos....this will give the police the auhority to question and detain them, making arrests or breaking them up if necessary. |
| Date | 19:25:24, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | But gangs, if they've done no wrong, why should the police have the right to infringe upon their civil rights? |
| Date | 12:37:25, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | SLP - Have you ever seen a real gang that didn't take part in illegal activities? Why give them the right to escape the police just because they may not be doing anything illegal at the moment? |
| Date | 15:24:05, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | And if they're NOT doing anything illegal? Why should they be singled out just because they're a gang of people? |
| Date | 22:23:18, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Individualist Progressive Democrats | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | This proposal is an infringement on people's right to assembly that has too much potential for abuse. |
| Date | 06:35:23, July 15, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | Because usually gangs don't operate without a criminal purpose. No one is being arrested, just dispersed. If they fight back with violence, then they will be arrested. |
| Date | 20:17:08, July 16, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | I vote no, if it ever gets around to realising i exist. |
| Date | 21:38:40, July 16, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | LPE *pokes* *Sniffs* Hi Ya! |
| Date | 23:23:00, July 16, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Safe Communities Act |
| Message | Its good to be back. The voting tally, however, does not seem glad to see me - I can't vote on anything. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 124 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 172 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 29 |
| Random fact: Real-life organisations should not be referenced in Particracy, unless they are simple and generic (eg. "National Organisation for Women" is allowed). |
| Random quote: "If we cannot, by reason, by influence, by example, by strenuous effort, and by personal sacrifice, mend the bad places of civilization, we certainly cannot do it by force." - Auberon Herbert |