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Bill: Gun Control
Details
Submitted by[?]: Elite Sinn Fein
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2335
Description[?]:
Please discuss my proposal |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 19:02:55, December 25, 2006 CET | From | Baltusian Pantian Alliance | To | Debating the Gun Control |
Message | Nope |
Date | 19:46:31, December 25, 2006 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Gun Control |
Message | awww, cmon, why not, auh? |
Date | 04:34:59, December 26, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Gun Control |
Message | We may well discuss your proposal but its hard to see why we should back it if you offer no reason for its implementation. |
Date | 05:49:35, December 26, 2006 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Gun Control |
Message | The current gun control laws, I believe, are too strict. Why should only proffessionals have guns? To keep criminals from having them? No. If a criminal wants a gun, he\'s going to find a way to get one, either by stealing one from a proffessional or exploiting the system and get a gun in a legal way. So, once they get a gun, whos going to stop them? You can forget about the police, they are only armed with non-lethal weapons, the criminal has no reason to fear the police. How about the citizens? Nope, the citizens aren\'t armed with anyhting. How about the military? Surely not, if we involve military in every gun mishandling, it inevitably would cause media attention, which in turn, cause citizens to feel unsafe. So, what do we do? We avoid all this by allowing our people to arm themselves with guns so that our normal, everyday people can feel safer, knowing the fact that they are legally allowed to protect themselves when invaded and harmed by criminals who have found means to attain weaponry. And also, its not like we are not going to be able to regulate it. We are going to have license for these normal, law-abiding individuals. So, we are simply just redifineing what a "proffesionally acquired firearm" is so that our law-abiding cirizens can have a gun to be able to protect themselves. And like I said before, these law-abiding individuals will have license so our old methods of regulation will still work incase any one of our "law-abiding" individuals gets a little too "ambitious" with their weapon. |
Date | 12:13:13, December 26, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Gun Control |
Message | "If a criminal wants a gun, he\'s going to find a way to get one, either by stealing one from a proffessional or exploiting the system and get a gun in a legal way" That's a poor argument. A criminal is going to do something harmful to other people so we should assist the criminal in the harmful act by making the equipment more available. "So, once they get a gun, whos going to stop them? You can forget about the police, they are only armed with non-lethal weapons, the criminal has no reason to fear the police." Obviously well informed. "Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units" - Taken from the laws. A standard firearm is still lethal. "How about the citizens? Nope, the citizens aren\'t armed with anyhting." Maybe that's because vigilanteism is BAD. Maybe we should allow lynchings as well, since the citizenry is an excellent position to be judge, jury and executioner. "And also, its not like we are not going to be able to regulate it." But you've suggested that well-trained policemen and, possibly, well-trained soldiers will be unable to protect their firearms from thieves. What good is an account from Rootianville going to be in preventing thieves from gaining access to his gun? |
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Voting
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yes |
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no |
Total Seats: 100 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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