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Bill: Communist Party minimum program

Details

Submitted by[?]: Communist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2036

Description[?]:

These are the essential elements of the Communist Party program.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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From First Socialist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageThe Socialist Party questions Article 1 and 2, and thus do not support it in its current form.

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From Communist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageQuestions, why?

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From Communist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageI understand this will go back to debate since we don't have a full parliament yet ... I'm willing to discuss it.

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From First Socialist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageThough we support free choice, we are not comfortable allowing abortion in the second trimester. You should have already made the decision in the first.

We also do not support the death penalty as such, and certainly not in your form.

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From Kellarly Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageI am in concurrence with the Socialist Party on both those issues.

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From Sanctaphrax Party (Mod)
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageArticle 1: We would have to be against.
Article 2: The death penalty is wrong and immoral, full stop. There is never a certain verdict against a man, therefore you can't be sure he's guilty. If you find out you're wrong, you can't bring him back to life.
Article 3: We have no problems with this as such.
Article 4: Slight clarification might be needed here. Is sleep deprivation torture? Although causing actual physical harm is not acceptable for a civilized nation, you must have a way of extracting information.

In conclusion, the Sanctaphrax Party votes against this.

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From Communist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageThis bill cuts back on the extent to which the government can use the death penalty. We considered this a compromise proposal. We would be glad to abolish the death penalty altogether if that is the consensus, and would in fact consider that an improvement on the bill as it presently stands. As for abortion, you will note that our maximum program includes legal abortion through the third trimester. However, this issue is still on the table for discussion.

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From Communist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageWe'll see how things stack up after the elections.

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From Communist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageWe propose to eliminate the demand for further liberalization of abortion in return for advancing our program on other fronts as indicated.

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From First Socialist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageWe are not convinced.

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From Kellarly Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageI think the unions should be voluntary only, although we concur on the death penalty and the voting method.

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From Sanctaphrax Party (Mod)
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageI agree with the Kellarly Party on all the points they raised.

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From First Socialist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageThere is also an issue about voluntary unionism as well however. We think a review of that component should come later, though the important part is allowing unions in the first place

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From Kellarly Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageAs another proposal allows unions in a voluntary form, I can't see how I can vote for this proposal as yet, even if i agree with the other areas of it.

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From First Socialist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageActually we suggest voting for this proposal now and revisiting the issue of voluntary unions after. There are both good and bad points about closed shop unions, but the pertinent point is allowing unions.

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From Communist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageThank you for your suggestion ... we hope that your party will itself vote for this proposal.

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From First Socialist Party
ToDebating the Communist Party minimum program
MessageOOC: I crap... I thought I voted...

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 32

no
  

Total Seats: 48

abstain
 

Total Seats: 20


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