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Bill: Communist Party minimum program
Details
Submitted by[?]: Communist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2036
Description[?]:
These are the essential elements of the Communist Party program. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards labor unions.
Old value:: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Current: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Proposed: Trade unions may exist and all workers must have membership in one.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The method used to determine the number of seats each region receives in the national legislature.
Old value:: A pseudo-proportional algorithm that gives considerable advantage to smaller regions.
Current: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Proposed: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | not recorded | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | The Socialist Party questions Article 1 and 2, and thus do not support it in its current form. |
Date | not recorded | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | Questions, why? |
Date | not recorded | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | I understand this will go back to debate since we don't have a full parliament yet ... I'm willing to discuss it. |
Date | not recorded | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | Though we support free choice, we are not comfortable allowing abortion in the second trimester. You should have already made the decision in the first. We also do not support the death penalty as such, and certainly not in your form. |
Date | not recorded | From | Kellarly Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | I am in concurrence with the Socialist Party on both those issues. |
Date | not recorded | From | Sanctaphrax Party (Mod) | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | Article 1: We would have to be against. Article 2: The death penalty is wrong and immoral, full stop. There is never a certain verdict against a man, therefore you can't be sure he's guilty. If you find out you're wrong, you can't bring him back to life. Article 3: We have no problems with this as such. Article 4: Slight clarification might be needed here. Is sleep deprivation torture? Although causing actual physical harm is not acceptable for a civilized nation, you must have a way of extracting information. In conclusion, the Sanctaphrax Party votes against this. |
Date | not recorded | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | This bill cuts back on the extent to which the government can use the death penalty. We considered this a compromise proposal. We would be glad to abolish the death penalty altogether if that is the consensus, and would in fact consider that an improvement on the bill as it presently stands. As for abortion, you will note that our maximum program includes legal abortion through the third trimester. However, this issue is still on the table for discussion. |
Date | not recorded | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | We'll see how things stack up after the elections. |
Date | not recorded | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | We propose to eliminate the demand for further liberalization of abortion in return for advancing our program on other fronts as indicated. |
Date | not recorded | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | We are not convinced. |
Date | not recorded | From | Kellarly Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | I think the unions should be voluntary only, although we concur on the death penalty and the voting method. |
Date | not recorded | From | Sanctaphrax Party (Mod) | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | I agree with the Kellarly Party on all the points they raised. |
Date | not recorded | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | There is also an issue about voluntary unionism as well however. We think a review of that component should come later, though the important part is allowing unions in the first place |
Date | not recorded | From | Kellarly Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | As another proposal allows unions in a voluntary form, I can't see how I can vote for this proposal as yet, even if i agree with the other areas of it. |
Date | not recorded | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | Actually we suggest voting for this proposal now and revisiting the issue of voluntary unions after. There are both good and bad points about closed shop unions, but the pertinent point is allowing unions. |
Date | not recorded | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | Thank you for your suggestion ... we hope that your party will itself vote for this proposal. |
Date | not recorded | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Communist Party minimum program |
Message | OOC: I crap... I thought I voted... |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes |
Total Seats: 32 | ||
no |
Total Seats: 48 | ||
abstain | Total Seats: 20 |
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