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Bill: Immigration policy reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Elite Sinn Fein
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2337
Description[?]:
It is necessary, for the protection of our country, to protect our border and to keep checks on all visitors comming into our country from other nations. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Travel by nationals to foreign nations
Old value:: The nation issues passports on demand for any reason to its nationals
Current: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Proposed: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes no border controls on visitors.
Current: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Proposed: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 02:15:32, December 29, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=13575 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=5471 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=13629 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=13582 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=14119 I'm sure with a little research you could find the corresponding bills in our Senate's history. Essentially, what it means is that we have an extremely long standing tradition of not securing our borders, since we have no need to do so. |
Date | 05:45:08, December 29, 2006 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | So are you saying that, passing bills that keep us from securing our borders = no need to secure our borders? Or, no need to secure our borders = passing bills that keep us from securing our borders. |
Date | 22:31:56, December 29, 2006 CET | From | Baltusian Pantian Alliance | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | Ah more right wing agreing on this rediculos amount of border openness let us attempt to increase safety once more. |
Date | 02:36:16, December 30, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | I'm saying that passing the bill means that we have nothing to fear. |
Date | 04:52:16, December 30, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | That is, the passing of those bills* as in the ones in my reply. |
Date | 05:17:28, December 30, 2006 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | Oh, so, Please explain why passing bills that leave our border wide open for anyone, regardless of background, to come into this country unnoticed and secretly become one of us means that we have nothing to fear from them? |
Date | 13:18:53, December 30, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | Why would we? Its not exactly like we're a terrorist target if that's what you're worried about. If its everyday, ordinary psychopaths...well, Batlusia has enough, what's a few more going to matter? |
Date | 13:19:59, December 30, 2006 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Immigration policy reform |
Message | Anyway, to come through the other nations mean they need to pass through Tukarali, Valruzia, Kalistan, Gaduridos or Lodamun's securities. Not everyone is as lax as we are. Just shifts the costs to others. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes | Total Seats: 22 | ||
no | Total Seats: 32 | ||
abstain | Total Seats: 29 |
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