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Bill: Refugee Act: Revison of 2082
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2082
Description[?]:
To change the Refugee Act. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Current: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 01:09:55, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | In the understanding that the Refugee Act will be passed. |
Date | 02:56:26, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | Against. |
Date | 07:49:47, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | We oppose. |
Date | 08:19:03, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Hosengott Nationalists | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | The Liberals will fill our country full of other countries waste |
Date | 08:39:19, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | The hatemongers will make people suffer to validate their own petty theories on life. |
Date | 17:07:52, July 13, 2005 CET | From | National Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | While we would not be so, hem, crass as the nationalists, we do support. |
Date | 01:26:17, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Hosengott Nationalists | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | Our theoryies are that of a safe society where we do not let just anyone in we must use ample procaution for each person we let into our country to ensure that our loyal citizens are secure within their own nation |
Date | 01:45:22, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | Who are we to grant certain people priviledges based on the lines on a map they were born within? If Baltusia provides a better life for people, they should be welcome. |
Date | 04:12:20, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | Note that almost by definition refugees are victims of extreme circumstance (you dont often see a person fleeing good fortune). |
Date | 04:35:41, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | National Prosperity Alliance, Family First Party, do you have any comments? |
Date | 14:55:43, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | "Our theoryies are that of a safe society where we do not let just anyone in" OUR theories are that we dont let Nationalists in a safe society and yet... |
Date | 01:29:40, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Hosengott Nationalists | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | Eventually mr liberal this will continue to be nothing but petty bickering however arent u the one supporting letting everyone live in the country reguardless of anything we are merely voicing our beliefs and my beliefs run agianst those in soceity like you however im generally sure by what your promoting ur not supposed to be hateful |
Date | 02:48:28, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | "Eventually mr liberal this will continue to be nothing but petty bickering however arent u the one supporting letting everyone live in the country reguardless of anything we are merely voicing our beliefs and my beliefs run agianst those in soceity like you however im generally sure by what your promoting ur not supposed to be hateful" Of course you have your rights to stay and speak your mind. We just dont like Nationalists very much. |
Date | 09:29:09, July 20, 2005 CET | From | Family First Party | To | Debating the Refugee Act: Revison of 2082 |
Message | OOC: Soz everyone, RL has been so busy. BIC: On it’s face, this proposal would seem valid. However, several things are of conern to us. Firstly, there is the issue of there being no discretion for the minister responsible, or suitable delegate or body to grant refugee status in extraordinary circumstances. The danger that is posed is that people who are not victims of extreme circumstnaces but could still make a claim that the public would accept have no recourse. There needs to not be only an application of rules and criteria, but also a place for human intervention and the possibility of discretion. Secondly, as a member of the cabinet, we owe a responsibiltiy to it (as well as naturally to the people of Baltusia). As a result, we note that the party in charge of foreign affairs has chosen to vote against. At this time, the FFP does not consider this issue to be one of such major importance as to cross the floor. In the future perhaps, but not now. For these two reasons, we have relutently decided to vote against this bill (this time). |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 177 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 243 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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