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Bill: Recreational Drugs III
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2086
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Current: All naturally occurring drugs are legal.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:01:33, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | oh god no |
| Date | 18:43:54, July 14, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | Why dont you provide some reasoning to your statements? |
| Date | 20:48:27, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | Legalized drugs increase the crime rate. Amsterdam is the #1 exporter of drugs in Europe. The drug trade is not run by people with six or seven plants, but by large gangs that use the money to fund other criminal activities |
| Date | 03:55:45, July 26, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | Legalizing drugs DECREASES crime rate. |
| Date | 03:58:41, July 26, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | No it doesnt......drugs are bad, it increases criminal activity, and destroys the users brain over time. Regardless of whether, hospitals are privatized or not, i do not want some hopped up idiot, drooling all over the streets. |
| Date | 04:02:07, July 26, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | Q: Aren't you ignoring the effects of drug-related crimes? What about the stoned people who are mugging grandmas because of their drug habits, to pay for their next fix? A: Prohibition keeps the street price of drugs very high, creating excellent profits for the drug dealers, and desperation for the addicts, who commit crimes like muggings to find the money to buy their drugs. In Switzerland, where they issue heroin to addicts, the illegal drug trade has all but vanished, as has drug related crime. Yes, drug addiction (including alcohol addiction and tobacco addiction) is a terrible thing. But if, post-prohibition, an addict can get his or her next dose for the price of a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of wine, it no longer becomes necessary for him to mug a grandma. Yes, he will still be an addict, and his addiction may well take a serious toll on his health or productivity, but he will no longer be a serious danger to the rest of society. It doesn't matter whether you are for or against people using drugs. What does matter is that we need to lower the costs of drug use to society, not increase them. Spending over 45 billion per year on a policy that has not only failed, but makes matters worse, makes absolutely no sense at all. |
| Date | 07:05:17, July 26, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Recreational Drugs III |
| Message | Nicely quoted from a decriminalization paper. My information came from a newsource (CBC) if I could only find a link (since I saw it on TV) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 135 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 90 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin." H. L. Mencken |