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Bill: Religious Act of Hobrazia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Socialist Party of Hobrazia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2341
Description[?]:
An act for the religious communities of Hobrazia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state appoints the head and ministers of the state religion, but does not intervene otherwise.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: No religions are taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:10:12, January 06, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Religious Act of Hobrazia |
Message | We will not support any of these things. Article 1 - the Government has no right as to who spreads the word of the Lord Hoba or through whom the tellings of the One True Voice, Alan be Praised, should be spoken. It is up to those who follow the True Path to choose for themselves who becomes a speaker. And though we may disagree with other religions who follow the false path we believe that we can and will stand together in supporting the ability of any religion to choose for themselves who can and should lead them. Article 2 - Though the increase in money to the believers of the Lord Hoba and the One True Voice, Alan be Praised, would be beneficial, it is Party policy that a religion is still an economic concern. Do not religions advertise and gain income? Then they are business-like and so are treated the same. Whilst both can advertise and are paid for a service then they shall continue to be treated the same. Article 3 - No! Praying to the Lord Hoba and following the words of the One True Voice, Alan be Praised, will lead our young toward the True Path and save their eternal souls. Attempting to block that in any way could lead to eternal damnation and we will not have that upon our collective conscience. |
Date | 13:20:54, January 07, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Religious Act of Hobrazia |
Message | Oh yes, we can see the well thought through arguments against all the points we've made. Thankyou for being so enlightening... |
Date | 16:20:08, January 07, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Religious Act of Hobrazia |
Message | We are very pleased with the MSPoH way of arguing. Also the way other arguments are ignored and not responded to as well as their absense in discussions on own proposals. |
Date | 16:20:23, January 07, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Religious Act of Hobrazia |
Message | ;-) |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 191 | |||
no | Total Seats: 209 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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