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Bill: On Civil Liberties
Details
Submitted by[?]: Guds og Konges Kjemprene
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2344
Description[?]:
| Art. 1: We don't think that homosexual couples or singles should be allowed to adopt children. Children should be brought up by a male and a female parent, and not by one gender only. Art. 2: This goes with article 5. Art. 3: If trustworthy people want a gun to have the possibility to defend themselves, we don't see why they shouldn't get their will. Art. 4: Not sure about this, what do you think? Art. 5: It's not the governements business to decide who can live together with whom. Art. 6: If we believe the gun owners to be trustworthy enough to own a gun, there's no reason why they shouldn't take their guns where they want. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Only couples may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples may adopt children.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign marriages.
Old value:: All foreign marriages are recognised, regardless of domestic policy regarding marriage.
Current: Only foreign marriages that comply with domestic policy regarding marriage are recognised.
Proposed: No foreign marriages are recognised.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The confidentiality of letters and correspondence.
Old value:: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate it in extreme situations.
Current: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate the confidentiality of letters with grounded cause.
Proposed: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate the confidentiality of letters with grounded cause.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government does not involve itself in marriage or civil unions.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:22:02, January 08, 2007 CET | From | Pretorium Libre Party | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | I don't know about article 1. The rest is fione with me. |
| Date | 15:23:57, January 08, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | What are your worries? |
| Date | 15:25:41, January 08, 2007 CET | From | Pretorium Libre Party | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | Well, mainly i think the issue may lead to sexual orientation discrimination. |
| Date | 15:48:19, January 08, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | I know. This is a problem of decision between two values, but I think that "properly" raised children are more important for the country than a slight possibility that homosexuals feel discriminated. Anyhow, they couldn't get children by nature, so why should it be discriminating that they can't get them through the state? |
| Date | 18:26:07, January 08, 2007 CET | From | Pretorium Libre Party | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | Well, it is not imperative that children should be raised by a man and a woman. My belief is that a child could be as well raised by a single parent. But from the utilitaristic point of view, I think you may be right. Is there any other wat we can make it up to gay people? |
| Date | 18:35:35, January 08, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | I could alter the proposal to any couples and singles can adopt children. Since we allow divorce in our country, children raised by single parents are reality here, so we could let them adopt children too. |
| Date | 02:29:37, January 10, 2007 CET | From | Destiny : Liberty | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | No, single parents have enough to do (and enough problems) without adopting more children. |
| Date | 15:46:03, January 11, 2007 CET | From | Guds og Konges Kjemprene | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | We wouldn't force them. |
| Date | 07:18:00, January 14, 2007 CET | From | Pretorium Libre Party | To | Debating the On Civil Liberties |
| Message | Well, i'd only agree if u altered the 1st article and left it the way it was |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 132 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 51 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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