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Bill: Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080
Details
Submitted by[?]: Right Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2081
Description[?]:
| For the future of our nation, to encourage moral standard. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: All abortions are illegal.
Proposed: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:33:58, July 14, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | No. Our current abortion laws are set so that the mother can only terminate the fetus before brain functions. This modification to the law would only lead to an influx of illegal and dangerous back-ally abortions without proper regulation or guaranteed cleanliness. We also fail to see any improvement in moral standards by this modification to our current laws. |
| Date | 17:43:45, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Right Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | Murder of innocents is immoral. |
| Date | 17:48:52, July 14, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | What murder?! |
| Date | 18:01:56, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Right Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | Abortion is the murder.There is no justification for it.Only medical emergencies, putting a life of mother or foetus' at risk can be accepted for such decision. |
| Date | 18:10:25, July 14, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | Abortion is not murder. Would you consider the removal of a cancerous cell murder? Perhaps a mole that blemishes the skin, but that is in no way directly harmful, is that murder? The removal of a foetus before brainwave activity is not murder. Until this point this growth is more harmful to the mother than aforementioned mole. It feeds directly from the mother draining her bodily resources. You cannot murder something that is not alive, or should we never use anti-biotics to destroy bacteria as they could be classified as alive, is that murder? We would rather the removal of an unwanted foetus than forcing the mother to carry around said unwanted growth, give birth and then dump said child either to die of malnourishment or to be looked after by the State. |
| Date | 18:54:13, July 14, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | We strongly agree with the WSS on this issue. There are times when a mother does not want another baby or would be unable to afford to bring it up to a high standard and abortion is a way for them to escape this. As already mentioned abortions are allowed up to 20 weeks (see bill not proposal) before which a baby could not survive outside of its mother's womb. I also cannot see how an act about abortion can "encourage moral standard[s]". |
| Date | 22:51:35, July 14, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | Dear dear Right Party, I don't think there will be anything we agree on. I would like to ditto points made by the UB and WSS! parties, as well as emphasising that it is a woman's body, and she has the right to make choices for herself. This is not murder. Being a pro choice party we can't support this. |
| Date | 23:12:11, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | I believe most salient points in opposition to this bill have already been raised. Frankly, I find the idea of outlawing a woman's freedom of choice regarding abortion as abhorrent as the RP seems to find abortion itself. |
| Date | 01:10:23, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Right Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | So if we understand right, it's all about the freedom to choose what to do with one's own body?It's a woman's body, and she should do whatever she wants with it, right? Well, in that case, we should also encourage heavy drug use and abuse of alcohol.Since it's all about the individual choice. We firmly dsagree with this way of thinking.We believe that abortion should only be used in medical emergencies,and if a woman can't afford to have more children, she has still got the choice to use free contraceptives.Think before you act to avoid having to regret later!Abstinence is also a good contraceptive method.Moral values must be encouraged! |
| Date | 15:05:30, July 15, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | Contraceptives are not 100% infallible so said woman may well have used contraception. Moral values are being encouraged. Our children receive mandatory sexual education classes at school but your argument that abortion is somehow morally abhorent is a fallacy, and even if it were not, the current regulations allow for abortion to be carried out in a safe and clean environment, surrounded by medical professionals. This law would not stop this act from occuring, merely drive it underground proving a danger to the woman in question. Would you also recommend that a married couple abstain from sex in order to not get pregnant? |
| Date | 15:29:44, July 15, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Morality For Hobrazia Act August 2080 |
| Message | I agree with the opposition. Abortion should be available, legal, and safe. This bill will lead to back alley abortions which will pose agiant health risk for the woman involved. Perhaps a compromise of some sort would have been a smart idea. Such as abortions allowed during first semester only. Speaking for myself at least, that may generate more approval and I may approve such a bill. . But this bill goes to the extreme. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 47 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 236 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 60 |
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