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Bill: Kanjor State of Emergency Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Kanjoran Socialist Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2343

Description[?]:

As protests grow around the nation, and the flames of anarchy start to grow, we the Industrialist Party propose a Popular Coup to stop these dissenters and bring Kanjor back into a stable democracy.

The actions to follow this bill are as follows

*First, to declare a state of emergency over all provinces of Kanjor
*Activate state militia to break up protests and arrest rioters
*Activate Kanjor Militia to guard the Senate from rioters

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:13:36, January 10, 2007 CET
From Kanjoran Socialist Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
MessageKTCP, any ammendments you think need to be made

Date23:18:09, January 10, 2007 CET
From National Coalition Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
Message(OOC: Turning the NCP into criminal organization and ordering all NCP members arrested isn't acceptable roleplaying anymore, but straight disrespectful and rude. That is why the NCP shall not follow that point in the bill)

Date23:25:11, January 10, 2007 CET
From Kanjoran Socialist Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
Message(OOC: well technically you have no people really in the first place so it's kind of moot. Anyhow, you could just RP that you party is underground or something. When I played as the Sons of the Revolution and Ultranationalists, I was basically a military power. The Zapatistas had more power than me, yet when they left I was the sole party and the revolution "Won". During that time I posted NO BILLS, because what was the point when I wasn't in politics? Also during the Second Revolution much the same happened you can even check the bill history. So don't say disrespectful and rude, the PPK we hold in high regard however we are pulling a coup. IN REAL LIFE any party that tried to dissuade the public from supporting the coup would be announced a criminal, know some history.)

Date23:35:04, January 10, 2007 CET
From National Coalition Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
Message(OOC: You don't have to preach me about history, I know enough about it but roleplaying should be commonly accepted and not unilaterally declared as you did, not to mention showing some respect for other people. Sure, I can always leave the country when I want and that isn't even so far off idea if the attitudes of other players are disrespectful)

Date23:42:01, January 10, 2007 CET
From Kanjoran Socialist Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
Message(ooc: I wasn't saying you should leave the country at all. But that is almost saying that the French Union intervening in my coup during the first revolutionary war would be bad roleplay because they didn't talk to me about it. Me and the KCTP both agreed upon it, and you have to react to whatever circumastances come your way and not go 'Oh! I do not agree with it! Nope, not at all! So...so what you did doesn't count because I am immune to the laws of common sense, yep.' I am not trying to be a prick, I removed the section but I am just stating what I believe to be realistic RP.)

Date23:42:31, January 10, 2007 CET
From Front de Libèration du Kanjor
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
MessageSupport.


(OOC: I dont see what the big deal is, how do you think countries like Deltaria get power? much more worse since they ratify treaty agreements so no one new can change anything or propose anything.)

Date00:00:15, January 11, 2007 CET
From National Coalition Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
Message(OOC: Sure, that's your opinion but I still see that roleplaying is common, respective interaction between players where the others won't step on the toes of the others without warning though that's just my opinion. This is imaginery world and even though this game is pretty realistic, I don't think it can be or should be directly compared to real life when it comes to what can happen.

You can disagree with this one, but I like to play peaceful, democratic country with good debating and moderate players without continuos riots, coups etc. and in somewhat, actually modern "world" where extreme events aren't a every year thing. Perhaps I'm not that "good" player equipped with sportsmanship or then Kanjor isn't just right country for me. Who knows if the game isn't just right?

But, nevertheless, I shall thank you both about playing with me in this country and your contribution on posting news in Kanjoran Times. I will try to find more peaceful country from Terra where I can practice a kind of politics that suits me. Au Revoir!

Date00:58:18, January 11, 2007 CET
From Partie Patriotique de Kanjor
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
MessageWe are going to vote no.

(ooc: I think this is a bad idea We just got 3 new active players and for me anyway they have brought a lot of fun to the game. This, particulary before they have had their 2nd election is likely to drive them away. not good. what it boils down to is, I think its a bit rude. I believe there is a difference between minor rolepay (eg interparty sniping through the press etc) and major stuff like foreign wars and revoulutions. For the major stuff consensus is needed and a plan worked out in advance about what is going 2 happen. Just my 2 cents)

Date11:21:08, January 11, 2007 CET
From Kanjoran Socialist Party
ToDebating the Kanjor State of Emergency Act
Messageooc: mmmm no. Obviously you are also new to Kanjor. I was orginially to corporist party way back in like 2100. This is the way it works in Kanjor, it is Kanjoran politics. Kanjor is not really a stable country. Calling the KCTP wreckers is not true as I also do the same thing. When the fascists ruled the nation I ousted them. When we had a stable republic under the Zapatistas I ousted them. When the DLERP and the socialists ruled, I ousted them. Now it's a return to a theocratic state, which I plan to keep because it will make things interesting. Stop being sore losers.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 118

no
   

Total Seats: 107

abstain
   

Total Seats: 0


Random fact: The people in your nation don't like inactive parties. When you often abstain from voting for a bill, they will dislike your party and your visibility to the electorate will decrease significantly. Low visibility will means you are likely to lose seats. So keep in mind: voting Yes or No is always better than Abstaining.

Random quote: "Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber." - Plato

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