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Bill: Religious Dress Code
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Peoples Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2348
Description[?]:
| The HPP want to create a dress code concerning employees in the state and for them who have a public function. They should no longer have the right to wear religous clothing. They represent the state and sould be totally neutral while doing their duty. As political independence is craved, as should religious independence. In all other cases, the choosing of clothes is completely voluntary, respecting other laws on this matter. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:12:23, January 19, 2007 CET | From |  National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Religious Dress Code |
| Message | Silly. A Jew doesn't stop being Jewish when he removes his Yamacha; a Sikh doesn't stop being a Sikh if he removes his turban. This measure infringes on the rights of the religious communities with no benefit to the state. |
| Date | 15:11:47, January 19, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Religious Dress Code |
| Message | The benefit of the state is obvious. A political active public official is not allowed to wear their partys badge or other signs or symbol of the opininon. Religions to are opinions who matters to people and thus they should not either infringe on others. This do not infringe on the rights of the religous communities, but it prevents public officials to wear religious symbols while serving the nation. In their private life they are free to wear what they want. This also do not infringe upon believers to perform religious acts in public buildings (though we also would like that), we though believe that this should be done in private or in rooms reserved for the purpose. |
| Date | 17:10:01, January 19, 2007 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Religious Dress Code |
| Message | "A political active public official is not allowed to wear their partys badge or other signs or symbol of the opininon." We believe you misunderstand the statute. What this means is that employees are not selected for their jobs through the spoils system. This should not be applied to Senators, as only those belonging to a party can be elected. "Religions to are opinions who matters to people and thus they should not either infringe on others." How does wearing religious clothing infringe on other's rights? "The benefit of the state is obvious." You've frequently said this without a valid argument. Please elucidate this for us. "This do not infringe on the rights of the religous communities." If a member of a religion is not permitted to follow religious law, then that is infringement. Religious clothing is an outward manifestation of adherence to a particular religion's laws. Even if the clothing is not permitted, their core values are still influenced by their faith. As such, what does it matter if we allow them to follow the protocols prescribed by their religion. Should we ban sports jerseys, hats, etc. as well? Belief in a team serves as a prejudice. What about band t-shirts? Anything with a logo? While these are an inane examples, they demonstrate how flawed your reasoning is and the potential for a slippery slope into stale uniformity. |
| Date | 18:41:29, January 21, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Religious Dress Code |
| Message | "How does wearing religious clothing infringe on other's rights?" The cases where religious believers are to be treated by other religions public officials uncomfortability could occur. "Even if the clothing is not permitted, their core values are still influenced by their faith." As such are political thoughts and believes. "Should we ban sports jerseys, hats, etc. as well? Belief in a team serves as a prejudice. What about band t-shirts? Anything with a logo? While these are an inane examples, they demonstrate how flawed your reasoning is and the potential for a slippery slope into stale uniformity." We would very much like that to :-) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 181 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 142 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 77 |
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