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Bill: Federal Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Paraplu party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2349
Description[?]:
| "What's so good about federalism?" -Liam Federalism lets more people be satisfied with the laws. As we are living in a democrocy, what the people want is of great importance! But if the southern half wants one thing and the northern half wants another, then unitarianism leaves half the nation un happy, but with federalism, more people can get what they want. If there is a bill you think just really should apply to the whole nation, say so, I'll probly take it out. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No curfew policies may be established.
Current: No curfew policies may be established.
Proposed: Local governments may set curfews, but national government does not.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards fireworks.
Old value:: Professionals may run licensed fireworks shows, small fireworks are legal to the general public.
Current: The sale of fireworks is unregulated, anyone may buy them.
Proposed: Local governments determine fireworks laws.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Positive discrimination.
Old value:: The government does not regulate hiring policies.
Current: The government encourages positive discrimination and enforces it for government hiring.
Proposed: Hiring policies are regulated by local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Current: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner. However, service/employer property owners that allow smoking must provide a separate non-smoking section.
Proposed: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:01:45, January 20, 2007 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | No on 2, 4, 5 and 6, these numberd bills give local givernments waaay too much power. 2. everyone should get power, local governments shouldn't decide that. After all, we the national government owns the power grid. 4. Everyone should have the right to gamble if they want to 5. Hiring policies should NEVER be regulated by ANY government. Local or national. Let private Companies have their own policies 6. Again, no government should be able to regulate what people do with their own bodies. If a guy wants to smoke himself to suicide, oh well. His choice, his choice. Take those proposals out and you'll have my vote. |
| Date | 22:16:55, January 20, 2007 CET | From | Baltusian Pantian Alliance | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | To much regulation via local governments helps breed seperatism. |
| Date | 23:00:43, January 20, 2007 CET | From | Paraplu party | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | Hmmm, maybe it is too much. Ok then. |
| Date | 23:04:44, January 20, 2007 CET | From | Paraplu party | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | Im not takin out the smoking one, that effects other people too. |
| Date | 23:57:46, January 20, 2007 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | "Im not takin out the smoking one, that effects other people too." Ahh, well, I like it for the most part. I'll vote for it. I would just change article 4 later. |
| Date | 00:00:04, January 21, 2007 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | time to put this bill up for a vote. |
| Date | 03:54:18, January 21, 2007 CET | From |  Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | "But if the southern half wants one thing and the northern half wants another, then unitarianism leaves half the nation un happy, but with federalism, more people can get what they want." Its a bit simplistic to say that half the nation will want one thing whereas the other half will want something else isn't? Things are more complex than black and white unamity. For instance, some people in the north may want what the south has or vice versa. People still have a say in how they're managed: by voting for the party they think has the best ideology. As far as we're concerned, democracy isn't about giving the majority what they want. Its about finding a compromise between the whole nation's various points of view. Plus, as for the specifics of the bill, *Article 1 is a horrible violation of human rights. Who is the government to say where I can and can't go? *Article 2 makes the nation potentially less safe. *We're in agreement with the SF on article 3. *And if you're worried about smoking harming others, why change article 4 so things can be less restrictive? |
| Date | 04:39:32, January 21, 2007 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | ahh, you kept the hiring policies proposal. Just forget it, the SF will never vote to hiring policies for private companies. |
| Date | 14:51:21, January 23, 2007 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | I think its timne to put this bill to a vote |
| Date | 00:25:57, January 24, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Federal Bill |
| Message | We do not believe that it is the just way in order to please one half of the population of Baltusia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 45 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 55 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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