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Bill: Help the Workers
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Social Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2367
Description[?]:
| Workers in our nation are suffering under current legislation. We need to help this lifeblood of our nation, and support them |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is regulated by local governments.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is forbidden.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers are free to fire workers who go on strike.
Current: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Proposed: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change International trade (this is a default in the absense of a specific free trade agreement or specific trade embargo)
Old value:: The nation does not impose any tariffs or quotas on imports.
Current: The nation allows for imports, but imposes "ethical" tariffs on nations with lower environmental and labour rights standards.
Proposed: The nation imposes reciprocal tariffs on imports, with no tariffs imposed on states which impose no tariffs on our exports.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:20:32, February 28, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | - 3 on the freedom scale. |
| Date | 07:14:21, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Federal Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | Nope, -3 on the freedom for big corporations scale you mean, and I have no problem with that. 100 on the freedom for the people scale, and again, sir, I have no problem with that |
| Date | 08:09:56, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | 1) A banning of child labour doesn't protect children from 'exploitation', it destroys their means to earn an income and drives them into theft, drugs and prostitution. 2)the role of government is to protect the sanctity of contract, not define its contents. 3)tarriffs are theft. the government has no right to demand a payment for trade between consenting parties. |
| Date | 09:03:10, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Federal Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | 1. With our current education travesty, yes you are right. With our neglct for poor families in this country, yes you are right, a more over all reform is necesary. But saying, well, children will steal, so let's make them work 12 hours! That is a travesty. And by the way, there is no proof for that. Countries which has banned child labour, saw no increase in theft and drug use by children. 2. Where are we suggesting interference in contract? 3. In that definition, tax is theft, but hang on, I guess you belive that, don't you. Anarchism has never worked, and it never will. We need to protect, and we need to take care, and for that we need to tax and tarrif. |
| Date | 11:27:26, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | Children aren't forced to work 12 hours, The morally admirable of them will choose to work 12 hours rather than steal. 2) You are preventing employers from firing striking workers, therfore you are prohibiting employers and employees from agreeing to a contract prohibiting striking. 3) a) Define works b) People get the government they deserve, Those that elected FSDP get what they deserve. Libertarians who elect a loibertarian government and donate money to a governmrent charged with defending indivuidal rights get what they deserve. Those who don't donate also get what they deserve. |
| Date | 11:28:23, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | it is the means that matters, dear boy, not the ends. |
| Date | 12:21:06, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Federal Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Help the Workers |
| Message | But then government is already interfering in the contract, just on the side of the employer! And by not taking care of our children, we are forcing them. And hey, daddy doesn't like working, no problem, I will send my child to a factory to work, then I can sit at home and do nothing. That is not forcing? Define works? Okay, let me put it in another way, it always fails. But on a positive note, yes, we agree on one thing, it is the means that matters, not the end. Capatilism in it pure form, as the main parties of this nation seek, does not regocnise this. The end, profit, is everything. The FSDP are trying to protect the means, the people |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 290 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 310 |
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