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Bill: Educational Reform Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Imperium et Libertas Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2369

Description[?]:

This act combines a decentralisation of power with a recognition of our Christian duty to help the less fortunate.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:19:15, March 04, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageI'm afraid we're strongly opposed to articles III to VI inclusive.

Date23:13:10, March 04, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Justicial Party - Solidarity
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageBecause you don't want help those who are gifted but from poor backgrounds? Such discrimination will hurt the economy and research.

Date13:17:39, March 05, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageHmmm, we can only accept article 5, and article 4 is debatable, but the others are not (1,2 and 6 are federalization which we are opposed, and we are against 3 because the current law is good).

Date14:23:38, March 05, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageLet's have a look at each of the articles rejected by the BCD.

Article III discriminates directly against those families not classified as "low-income" or "poor". We all know what this means: hard working families have to somehow get by, as they always have, by both parents working longer and longer hours - meanwhile spongers live off the state for free, spending their government handouts on drink and drugs.

Article IV would take money away from our voucher system and use it to create second rate state schools, which would haemorrage cash but never achieve the standards of their private sector counterparts.

Article V, along with article VI (and IV for that matter), represents unwanted government interfering in schooling - leave it to the headmasters: they know best!

Date14:44:06, March 05, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Justicial Party - Solidarity
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageYes of course. All of those who work their asses off to live on minimum wage and provide for their families are 'spongers'. Is the BCD a party of Christian people, or a party of the aristocrats?

Date15:00:29, March 05, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageThe BCD is a party of Christian men who, generally speaking, come from hard working families with two workng parents - the very families discriminated against by policies like the ones proposed. Despite working extremely hard for their money they happily offer it as a gift during church services, which is distributed to the genuinely needy, in forms that cannot be abused. Why should they have further money coerced from them by the state to be redistibuted to the reckless?

Date15:14:29, March 05, 2007 CET
FromImperium et Libertas Party
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageSurely those families that are likely to wish to send students to university are not likely to be the kind of "spongers" you're refering to? In fact, we'd argue that the families who will benefit most are those whom the BCD draws its support from.

Date15:21:55, March 05, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Educational Reform Act
MessageWe know from experience that families with two working parents are never classified as "low-income" or "poor", regardless of the reality of their balance sheets, given the expensive nature of raising children PROPERLY and so they would lose out on higher education.

This is academic, however, as without the voucher system, they would no longer be able to send their children to successful independent schools, and so - after thier second rate "free" state education - they would probably not be educated to a high enough standard for entry into higher education anyway.

Furthermore: moving from one school to another because parents are not satisfied with the discipline regime is one thing, but having to move to a different Imperial Presbytery (effectively another country), just to see your kids go to a shool with adequate discipline to enable them to thrive, is a little too much.

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