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Bill: Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union
Details
Submitted by[?]: First Party Of Hobrazia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2371
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:50:47, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | This is slavery of ethnic Darnussians! |
| Date | 19:37:52, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Power Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | how can an independent protecotrate be slavery? |
| Date | 21:34:34, March 06, 2007 CET | From |  National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | In what way are we enslaving the Darnussians? Full autonomy is given by this treaty, save for defense and foreign affairs. |
| Date | 21:49:31, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | "In what way are we enslaving the Darnussians? Full autonomy is given by this treaty, save for defense and foreign affairs." Why dont you look and see what the IPP is doing, they are opposing Hobrazian religion and values on Darnussians. They are trying to make us a "Protectorate", my party has come back just to fight them off and we will accomplish that task. In the process we will cleanse Darnussia of all Hobaist and Hobrazian existance, and the nation will be Catholic once again. |
| Date | 21:53:07, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=104960 |
| Date | 22:49:03, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Jewish-Christian Alliance of Patriots | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | The National Conservatives shall fight this measure in the streets if need be! |
| Date | 23:20:29, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Power Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | indeed they will, how about your own party? :-) |
| Date | 23:23:42, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Alliance for Freedom | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | As Ministry of Defence of Hobrazia we will not allow any threat coming from an insurgent force or party. |
| Date | 00:31:00, March 07, 2007 CET | From | First Party Of Hobrazia | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | Also as Head of State of Hobrazia, we will help the elected government of Darnussia in their fight against any terrorist group or action. |
| Date | 01:04:25, March 07, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | We our not terrorist groups, we are political parties in Darnussia, the country you plan to enslave. |
| Date | 01:05:47, March 07, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | We are not terrorist groups, we are political parties in Darnussia, the country you plan to enslave. Wether you like it or not the IPP is being oppose by the NCPP, the NCP, and the PCP. So the way I see it, this enslavement or as you call it a "Union" will not last. We Darnussians have an experiance of battling foreign powers, we beat the Lusitians and the Deltarians. |
| Date | 04:12:16, March 07, 2007 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | Read the treaty: we are not enslaving anyone, but if the Darnussians want to enslave themselves that's your prerogative. "We Darnussians have an experiance of battling foreign powers, we beat the Lusitians and the Deltarians." Didn't they just leave? |
| Date | 10:42:35, March 07, 2007 CET | From | Darnussian Liberal Democrat Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | The IPP has Hijacked the government when two major parties left, they are refusing to call early elections. All this is doing is enslaving all Darnussians. If you pass this bill, the DSC (Darnussian Sovereignty Council) will consider it an attack on Darnussian Sovereignty and respond as such. |
| Date | 13:22:07, March 07, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | "Didn't they just leave?" The Deltarians left but we had to beat off the Lusitians in elections. "Read the treaty: we are not enslaving anyone" Maybe not, but you are indirectly enslaving Darnussia wether the treaty states that or not. And just because the treaty contents dont include the word enslave that doesnt mean this is pure genocide of the Darnussian race and culture by your pathetic fascist government. |
| Date | 13:25:23, March 07, 2007 CET | From |  Ma'avak | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | OOC: "Didn't they just leave?" Well of course on OOC reasons they just left but if you want to do some sensible role play then it was a combination of resources being needed in Kafuristan and inability to contend with increased Darnussian terrorist activity from freedom fighters. |
| Date | 18:30:07, March 07, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | OOC: "Didn't they just leave?" I believe this was meant within RP. It was a statement of belief within the confines of what we know of Deltarian occupation practices, I could be wrong though. IC: "that doesnt mean this is pure genocide of the Darnussian race and culture" We couldn't agree more. This doesn't mean this is pure genocide of the Darnussian race and culture, far from it in fact. This is the ratification of a Union between the Imperial Republic and Darnussia forming a single defensive block and coherant foreign policy. What the Darnussian Government does within the borders of Darnussia is entirely their concern and the Imperial Republic, as now, will only act if assistance is requested from Darnussia. |
| Date | 02:04:06, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | "What the Darnussian Government does within the borders of Darnussia is entirely their concern and the Imperial Republic, as now, will only act if assistance is requested from Darnussia." Well, they are commiting cultural genocide. Well I know your party does not care as you just stated it doesnt matter what Darnussia does to its own civlians. But when we enter power, we will slaughter your Hobrazian and Hobaist race from Darnussia, eliminating all source of your evil. |
| Date | 02:12:46, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Power Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | And then you are no better than what you believe we're doing! And, there is no genocide. And again: Well, that has been done several times and is continued to be done. Just look at our laws. It says that the government can change cultural stuff. Has been done for the last hundred years, so don't blame that on me. It's been done since the beginning. |
| Date | 04:38:36, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Popular Revolutionary Front | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | "I dont understand the IPP's point about Darnussia having no culture, maybe the IPP should look in history (WIKI) and see that Darnussia has a culture, history, and language." |
| Date | 14:32:24, March 08, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Act of Hobrazian-Darnussian Union |
| Message | OOC: @NCPP - The IPP hasn't said that Darnussia has no culture, merely that your existing laws allow for cultural sites etc to be modified to accept whatever the existing government says. In this respect he's modified those sites to be purely Hobrazian, or more specifically Hobaist and Hobrazian Orthodox, not that those cultural sites don't exist nor that there is no Darnussian culture. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 284 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 116 |
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