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Bill: Welfare
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Forces of Decay
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2371
Description[?]:
| We should invest our money in other things. People don't need the money, they can care for themselves. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state does not provide child benefit.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:08:03, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Welfare |
| Message | Full support. |
| Date | 16:47:58, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democratic Alternative | To | Debating the Welfare |
| Message | The government only receives money to take care of people. Governments exist for the sole purpose of taking care of people. Especially child benefits are something many people need to give their children a decent future. Pensions must also be partially managed by the government for people who can't save the money themselves. |
| Date | 17:03:22, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Welfare |
| Message | Governments exist to provide law and order and protect citizens from foreign threats. They do not exist to bail citizens out. Self help. |
| Date | 17:03:31, March 08, 2007 CET | From | "Le Chaim" - Aesthetic Party | To | Debating the Welfare |
| Message | Never! These are our social achievments of the last years... |
| Date | 17:13:53, March 08, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democratic Alternative | To | Debating the Welfare |
| Message | If "self-help" means abject poverty I'd rather leave Hutori than being left to myself by a selfish yuppish government (solidarity apparently means nothing to them). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 17 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 108 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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