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Bill: Proposal to Outlaw Extradition
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperium et Libertas Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2373
Description[?]:
| The matter of exporting our citizens to face trial in foreign, inferior, courts has been raised by us before. However, the issue has taken on a new vitality with the request by the communists to extradite the NSAP. Vote for this bill and let the communists know we won't take interference from foreign bodies lying down. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Current: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Proposed: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:49:44, March 12, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Justicial Party - Solidarity | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | While we should oppose foreign interference, any party involved in genocide or such matters should not receive our support. |
| Date | 16:34:21, March 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperium et Libertas Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | We'd agree, but we think that those kind of matters would still be better served by us charging the criminal ourselves. |
| Date | 18:51:11, March 12, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Justicial Party - Solidarity | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | Then why haven't we? Has anyone done research into the alleged crimes of the NSAP? |
| Date | 18:55:49, March 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperium et Libertas Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | The ABCD (in their foreign affairs capacity) has asked them to formally respond to the allegations, but I don't know if they have yet. The chances of getting to the bottom to this are hindered by the amount of propaganda flying around. (It's certainly been the case that there's been some pretty aggressive slogans and images on anti NSAP demonstrations, to the point where we'd consider some of them to be incitement to violence against the NSAP). And, as I'm sure we agree on, Communists aren't exactly the most reliable witnesses on matters of this kind... |
| Date | 20:41:01, March 12, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | In one hand we do not accept anyone to intervene in our affairs, and more strongly if they were communists. In the other, we consider that the NSAP is not a very ethical party. However the first hand wins ;) |
| Date | 23:22:25, March 12, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Justicial Party - Solidarity | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | ... and so do the Nazis, then. |
| Date | 01:36:04, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | The NSAP is a loyal ally to the Empire of Luthori and the Imperial Party. We will not stand for any actions against them |
| Date | 01:37:28, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | The NSAP denies all allegations of the existance of any prison camps under it's administration within the Dundorf Democratic Republic. Any camps that existed were established by private corporations without any form of government or NSAP oversight, however, even with this being possible, the NSAP government or the other non-communist members of the DDR government have found no record of any such camps existing or any sudden drop in population other than due to civil war deaths. We denounce all allegations as communist lies and ask that all be ignored as such. We also denounce the words of the Catholic Justicial Party in calling the NSAP an unethical party, as we consider ourselves highly ethical in every form. -Albrecht Eichmann NSAP Chairman |
| Date | 02:37:47, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | To not allow criminals to face justice, is insane. The commit a crime, they ought to damn well pay for it. |
| Date | 05:26:43, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Imperium et Libertas Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | We agree totally. We'll propose a bill that should hopefully assuage your fears on this matter. |
| Date | 12:25:56, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Justicial Party - Solidarity | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | The Rednecks are correct. More research on the past actions of the NSAP is necessary, too. |
| Date | 16:12:52, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | Bottom line, all parties that voted to pass this disgrace of a bill are pro criminal. That lot of you need to resign from the government. |
| Date | 16:28:43, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | The best solution is the resolution that the ILP proposed plus we should see if there is a treaty like the Interpol in order to join while preserving our sovereignity by banning extradition of our citizens to other countries especially if they were communists. |
| Date | 16:29:11, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Imperium et Libertas Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | Much as we'd like to take the Redneck's advice, we're afraid that we don't see how a government made up solely of themselves and the CJP will attain the required majority. |
| Date | 18:43:09, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Justicial Party - Solidarity | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | Don't be cheeky! |
| Date | 20:30:57, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | The Defenders respectfully request that our honourable friends of the Redneck Party back up their latest outburst with some kind of justification. Refusing to extradite is not the same as refusing to punish. |
| Date | 21:50:00, March 13, 2007 CET | From | Imperium et Libertas Party | To | Debating the Proposal to Outlaw Extradition |
| Message | Well, they certainly aren't backing it up with popular support... Oh, sorry, did we say that out loud? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 117 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 38 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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