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Bill: Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Tory Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2375
Description[?]:
| Just a few little changes to ease things... |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's capital city.
Old value:: 299
Current: Fort William
Proposed: 405
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 155
Current: 650
Proposed: 500
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:40:38, March 15, 2007 CET | From | Imperium et Libertas Party | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | If you seperate these out, we'll happily vote for article II. |
| Date | 13:52:53, March 15, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | Actually between the presidential system now and the one you are proposing and which was before adopting the presidential one, we do prefer yours. But their is a problem, who will be the Emperor. So we should find a concensus about that. But meanwhile, we cannot just sit and and stay in the presidential system. The solution will be to adopt TEMPORARLY the semi presidential system, and to prepare for a concensus about the Emperor, and so to adopt the parliamentary system. |
| Date | 16:16:54, March 15, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | We believe it would be best to back a single candidate at the next election and declare them Emperor. |
| Date | 21:04:03, March 15, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | The LTP proposal would work, a semi-presidential system would not as we are an Imperial monarchy and will not vote away our heritage! Personally I'd remove the full stop from the end of the Emperor's title though. |
| Date | 21:56:13, March 15, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | We've removed the proposal to separate the roles at the present time, to fit in with this aim. |
| Date | 21:59:21, March 15, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | Meaning this will result in the Viceroy, a politician, being crowned as Emperor?! |
| Date | 00:21:59, March 16, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | There are all details. The thing we should do is to start trying to have a concensus about the Emperor. All parties should agree about the Emperor, because he will be above all criticism and should constitute the ideal to all citizens, so this is why we should take our time and choose him very very wisely. And again meanwhile we should try to find a solution with our current and very defectuous presidential system, and its last symptoms (which are logic by the way) were the impossibility to pass a gov proposal even it detains the majority of council. |
| Date | 00:56:15, March 16, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Order Of The First Estate, Third Reading |
| Message | @ABCD: Good point. Hmm. Perhaps once we all agree on the Imperial titles, then that part of the bill can be removed as well, in order to facilitate the aforementioned aim... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 44 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 93 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 18 |
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