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Bill: Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy
Details
Submitted by[?]: Greenpeace Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2381
Description[?]:
| We believe we are reached the moment in order to begin we renew of our productive energies. In the field of the agriculture we must give a carried out sign of, affinchè the feeding style, the state of the small farms, the production process and the protection of the atmosphere improves. For this we propose that to it puts into effect it them normative with respect to politics of agricultural subsidies, Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:08:25, March 16, 2007 CET | From | S.C.A.F.R. | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | Agree |
| Date | 14:38:20, March 16, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | We do not believe in subsidies. It is a gross infringement in the free market. |
| Date | 14:39:21, March 16, 2007 CET | From | S.C.A.F.R. | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | We don't believe in free market. |
| Date | 17:20:44, March 16, 2007 CET | From | Independent Right | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | We can see the benefits of subsidies are certain times. For instance, certain crops that are particularly needed by the nation could be subsidized to increase production. |
| Date | 04:47:31, March 17, 2007 CET | From | Aldegar Freedom Party | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | The TCP does not believe in any subsidies or government handouts, and as the SD has explained, they are a gross infringement on the free market. Unfortunately the TCP cannot support this bill. |
| Date | 00:48:06, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | Perhaps there are times where subsidies are good, but not in agriculture. |
| Date | 07:56:50, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | Subsidies do abmormally affect the free market, but even so, they do a lot of good and can allow the government to place particular emphasis or relief on certain industries. Is it really that important to follow the book of free market economics to the letter? Sometimes exceptions are good. In fact, something so absolute as to never allow exceptions is impractical. It is impractical because the abolishment of exceptions implies that the system is perfect, and nothing is perfect. |
| Date | 19:53:24, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | This is a very good point raised by the PM, however we have seen cases where the distribution of subsidies was very bad - the big landowners get huge amounts of funds while on the other side the small farmers are left with smaller shares. We propose a following change to the bill: - there is a cap on the amount of subsidy that one economic subject can secure - we will stop subsidising immediately if the farmers begin to overproduce and we are dealing with surplus - we will encourage agricultural subsidies to those who grow "green" crops - without pesticides - we will encourage agricultural subsidies for new cultures that do not exist on the market yet If these changes are incorporated into the bill we see nothing wrong with it. Indeed we must apologise for our harshness stating that subsidies are bad. We hope that we can come to this compromise. |
| Date | 17:42:42, March 26, 2007 CET | From | Aldegarian Libertarian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | The ALSP agree to the latest arguments of the SD party although we would oppose a static cap on the subsides. Also a total removal of subsidising at the moment of overproduction is a bit to harsh. We would suggest that we should have a dynamic policy regarding farming where the subsidy level/taxation level is regulated slowly in the direction we want the farming industry to take. Meaning that if we have a increasing food production we'll slowly reduce the subsidies allowing the farmers to relocate/change production methods to more demanded products. Also we belive that if the production is to high we should stop the growth completely but not try to reduce the production. We should rather try to encourage population growth an in that way increase the demand for food within the country. When the population level and the food production level seems to reach a balance we could discourage population growth again and try to keep the balance. We might revise this view at a later stage. |
| Date | 22:04:37, March 28, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy |
| Message | We agree with the SD. We won't support unless those changes are made. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 317 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 263 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 70 |
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