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Bill: Grand Council Improvement Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party of Moderates
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2377
Description[?]:
| The purpose of this act is exactly what the bill says it is. The purpose is to improve the Grand Council by adding more seats, decreasing the amount of time between elections, and some other possible proposals. We hope that this act will help to better the Grand Council by making it more accountable. Also, this bill has been created to raise the current retirement age. The current one is at an moronic 57. That doesn't allow for people who are experienced to be within the Grand Council and Executive Branch. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 650
Current: 700
Proposed: 750
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:30:02, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Grand Council Improvement Act |
| Message | We see problems with this bill in two ways - first one is OOC: we must be aware that this is a game where one must be always present to partake in discussions and that can be difficult. I have seen examples where more than half of the parties did not to show up to vote for the coalition because they were away. We suggest that the term is longer so that we can also debate longer - in our opinion, debate is the core of the game. Perhaps we could agree to have the mandate lasting one real life week so we can easily adapt our working lives for the elections? The second one is the legal retirement age - we cannot force people to be employed until the age of 70. Many people are getting really old at that time, and we see no benefit to force the entire population to be working that long. We propose that this is reduced to 60. And as far as we understand our legislation, this is not strict - if one wishes to continue to work, he or she has every right to do so. |
| Date | 20:50:59, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Grand Council Improvement Act |
| Message | Hm, you do make a good point. As for article 2, we shall remove on the grounds that it would make the game far too inconvenient for real life. As for article 3, we apparently misread what we were proposing. Since that was in the administrative section, we somehow assumed that it only applied to public officials, and we also misread it to think that it dealt with what time public officials were forced to retire. We apologize for this embarrassment. We agree with the SD's assessment and shall make those changes. |
| Date | 22:42:31, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Independent Right | To | Debating the Grand Council Improvement Act |
| Message | We'd suggest 65 as the retirement age, but have no problems with raising it to 60 in and of itself. We also support the first article, as smaller constituencies can often translate into each individual voter having a larger say in the political system. |
| Date | 23:06:53, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Grand Council Improvement Act |
| Message | Well, let's leave greater raises of the retirement age for later. I think everyone will be happy with this bill for now. |
| Date | 13:07:58, March 19, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Grand Council Improvement Act |
| Message | We agree with 60. We also propose to open an OOC debate on the mandate lenght if everyone agrees. |
| Date | 04:22:12, March 20, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Grand Council Improvement Act |
| Message | The retirement age increase has been moved to another bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 372 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 278 |
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