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Bill: Freedom of Religion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2384
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:11:57, April 02, 2007 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | We cannot declare protestantism a state religion considering almost half of the population belongs to the Catholic Church. I oppose the state religion as I myself am a Catholic. I, and the Party, hope to once again make religion free in Dundorf. |
| Date | 05:13:24, April 03, 2007 CET | From | Sozialistische Arbeiterpartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | The SAP-D concurs! |
| Date | 07:38:15, April 03, 2007 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | Please remember that membership is totally voluntary and other religions are still allowed. The current National Church is Protestant because Dundorf's ancestors, the Duntrekkers, adhered to that faith. Although, we expected a proposal like this one, the VBD is suprised by the mild nature of it. The stalinist KED fighting for free religion ? A partyleader coming out as a Catholic ? Wasn't religion "the opium of the people" ? May be it's still the Deltarian influence within the KED. |
| Date | 10:09:43, April 03, 2007 CET | From | Sozialistische Arbeiterpartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | Religion is the opium of the people. The thing is that some people like the opium and continue to be addicted by it. We represent the people, so even though we hate the opium, we unwillingly swallow it whole for the people. Besides, Dundorf is and must continue to be a secular state. Having a state religion means that religion influences state policies. We don't want to lynch people just because they lie or commit adultery. I myself am a Protestant. (though not a devout one) On the other hand, having a state religion, although not mandatory, makes it seems that the state is biased towards one religion. Hey, we're secular communists but religious freedom is a civil right nonetheless. |
| Date | 00:49:56, April 04, 2007 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | The KED had shifted toward a pro-religion stance a while ago. OOC: The reason I decided on Catholicism is because I am Catholic in real life. |
| Date | 03:48:46, April 04, 2007 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | Also I hope you realize that they are called Duntrkkers because they left Dundorf because of Catholic rule. Check the wiki. |
| Date | 06:51:46, April 04, 2007 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | ...many but not all left the nation... |
| Date | 10:55:16, April 04, 2007 CET | From | Sozialistische Arbeiterpartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | The Duntrekkers were alredy a minority. Having a large number of them leave the country makes an even smaller minority. |
| Date | 18:56:35, April 04, 2007 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | That was ages ago....they are a fertile specimen. Besides, many might have returned. The DDR enforces (at least in the past) an open border policy to "foreigners", as you might know. |
| Date | 00:53:22, April 05, 2007 CET | From | Kommunistische Einheitspartei Dundorf | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | But religion has been repressed in the DDR for years. They would have no reason to comeback. And like you said, that was ages ago. Generations. Why would people born in other countries come back? The original Duntrkkers are dead. |
| Date | 08:14:51, April 05, 2007 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the Freedom of Religion |
| Message | Apparently not. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 268 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 167 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 65 |
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