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Bill: Grand Council Efficiency Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Aldegar Liberty Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2386
Description[?]:
This act addresses two problems we see with the current Grand Council. First, it’s our belief that there be an odd number of councilors so that bills do not have the potential of stalemating on the council’s floor. Additionally, we believe a reduction in the number of councilors is prudent to reduce costs and increase efficiency in the legislative body. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 650
Current: 700
Proposed: 501
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 02:08:42, April 08, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Grand Council Efficiency Act |
Message | We severely doubt there will ever be a stalemate, but we can support the idea of reducing costs by no longer having to pay that many representatives. |
Date | 15:39:26, April 09, 2007 CET | From | Aldegarian Libertarian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Grand Council Efficiency Act |
Message | OOC: Crap, I wrote a page in word with a greate speach against this bill, but while Ii wrote it I was loged out and when I tried to log in I couldn't get into the server :'( Then my mum needed the computer woth work stuff. Anyway I don't have a backup :/ I'll try to write down the essence of this speach later. Thanks S.C.A.F.R for putting a stopper to this bill. |
Date | 01:29:27, April 10, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Grand Council Efficiency Act |
Message | What's wrong with this bill? It stops government waste. |
Date | 20:17:56, April 10, 2007 CET | From | Aldegarian Libertarian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Grand Council Efficiency Act |
Message | Our culture is made up of several sub cultures some of them ideologically based some of them simply differ from the others because of race, class or sexual preference, some of them simply exist because of the size of our country. People that have oppinions that differ from that of the greatest parties that might cover one of their interests usually vote on a smaller parties that is in a coalition with the bigger parties. If there is fewer seats then each seat will be more important and voters is forced to priorities their opinions by voting on larger parties as the smaller parties no longer is guranties to enter the council and voters are therefore forced to vote on larger parties so that they can hold in check even worse big parties. That is the situation in several countries. (US presidential election) There is nothing as efficient as a dictatorship. We don't have a democracy for the efficiency, we have it because of justice, because it's the only way to get everyone involved in the ruling of the country. If we wanted to be effective we could do as the danes did before they got king that inhered the throne, they elected them for life. But our party, the ALSP opposes anything that treathen the democracy and as we belive the strong precess of small parties is vital for our democracy we oppose this bill. OOC: This is just some of the main points, it's without the spark that the first speach had and it's aloot worse put together. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 199 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 79 | |||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 350 |
Random fact: Cabinet ministers who disagree seriously with the head of government would usually be expected to resign. Parties within the cabinet may attempt to manoeuvre to replace the head of government though, for example by proposing a new cabinet bill or voting for an early election. |
Random quote: "In all recorded history there has not been one economist who has had to worry about where the next meal would come from." - Peter Drucker |