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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of December 2389
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Centrist Democrats
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2391
Description[?]:
| We would like to propose this cabinet for start, though we're open towards different portfolio distribution. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Progressive Centrist Democrats
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Progressive Centrist Democrats
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Progressive Centrist Democrats
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:07:47, April 16, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | We think it isn't wise to form a cabinet with 4 parties when a coalition government containing only 3 is possible. |
| Date | 13:12:25, April 16, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | We will never support this undemocratic cabinet ruling out a party that is both the biggest and delivers the HoS. |
| Date | 17:18:27, April 17, 2007 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | what's so undemocratic about it? Every majority excludes someone. Why are the 30% of voters less eligible to be "left out" than those who voted for the CUI and NCP. Every vote has the same value and so does every seat in Congress, no matter whom it represents. And what has the HoS to do with it? We had lots of governments without the Chancellor's party involved during this century. As far as we can remember we even had a Fascist Prime Minister and a Socialist Chancellor at the same time. So what? A majority is a majority and the 4 parties represented in this proposal have already proven that they can govern together. That's why, though we share your stability argument in theory, we don't agree in this special case. |
| Date | 18:32:58, April 17, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | Oh well, a majority is a majority. Vive la rpublique! |
| Date | 20:04:06, April 17, 2007 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | In this case: yes, exactly! |
| Date | 20:12:54, April 17, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | Well, I hope for you that the parties you invited will agree your point of view here and prevent you from a great disgrace by voting down your proposal. I don't completely back the words of Ikradonian Interest, but I repeat this proposal isn't wise. I hope other parties will understand our concern. |
| Date | 23:12:05, April 17, 2007 CET | From | Progressive Centrist Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | We would fully respect if the NCP would choose your cabinet. What I was meaning with "In this case yes" is that a majority is a majority in terms of forming a government. In other cases minority rights are neccessary. This was not meaning that we are sure that this proposal will gain a majority. We will not feel disgraced at all if the NCP will vote against us. All what we were saying were just comments against the Ikradionian Interest's remark that it is undemocratic to leave the largest party out of the government and your comment that our government will be instable. |
| Date | 00:48:35, April 18, 2007 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 2389 |
| Message | The NCP would be honoured to lead this coalition. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 326 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 273 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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