We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Deltarian Liberal Democracy Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2088
Description[?]:
| In order to provide more freedom, In the spirit of brotherhood and cooperation among all the parties of the Republic of Deltaria, And in hopes that we may all be united together as a nation, The Liberal Democrats propose that the power to propose a cabinet lay not only in the hands of the Head of State, but for any party within the Republic. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:12:36, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | We support this proposal and would like it to be brought to vote after the elections. |
| Date | 18:16:34, July 27, 2005 CET | From | People's Party for Freedom and Democracy | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | We too support this proposal. |
| Date | 18:29:33, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Labor Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | Labor supports this proposal. |
| Date | 18:48:22, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Liberty Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | We do not support this proposal. (Furthermore, will you quit proposing bills until either Siri gives up this thing about getting Thelas in and having elections, or we actually get Thelas and whoever else we're waiting on. There is *enough* of a backlog of business already.) |
| Date | 22:41:41, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Democracy Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | It is a mystery to us as to why the ILP does not support this proposal. We feel that it improves democracy and upholds the ideals of freedom for everyone. In this way, non-majority parties will have a voice in how the government is run. What is the problem? |
| Date | 23:42:41, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Liberty Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | We consider it the role of the Head of Government/State to propose cabinets, not that of the minority parties. We believe this will simply produce large numbers of coalitions dominated by minority parties whose influence will not reflect the faith the Electorate has put in them. |
| Date | 10:32:33, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Labor Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | Labor notes that at present, the President is a member of one of those minority parties. Surely the faith the electorate has in a party, as opposed to an individual presidential candidate, is reflected in the number of seats the electorate grants that party as a whole, not in whether they endorse one individual or not. The President is much more popular than her party - this explains her success in the presidential elections despite her party's fairly mediocre parliamentary result. |
| Date | 11:17:31, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Liberty Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | The electorate also directly elects the president. If the electorate, being, one would hope, cognizant of the president's current powers, wish to force the president into coalition, who are you, or for that matter, we, to object? |
| Date | 11:18:34, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Enlightenment Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | Perhaps a compromise might be limiting the right to propose a cabinet to the President and the leader of the party possessing a plurality in Parliament but to no other parties? |
| Date | 14:01:37, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Labor Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | Labor notes the ILP's objection as spurious, since the issue of the president's powers has never been put to the public, only the issue of who should fill the office of president as it currently exists. Whether the people are cognizant of the president's current powers are not is entirely irrelevant if they have not had a chance to consider whether it is appropriate for the president to have those powers or not. |
| Date | 15:19:32, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Liberty Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | *Excellent!* We are glad the Deltarian Labour Party proposes this referendum, putting the issue of the President's powers fo the people. We propose that this bill be dropped immediately, and that a referendum be carried out. (Oh wait...) |
| Date | 16:10:20, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Labor Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | By putting this on the agenda of the parliament, the people will be able to express their will on the issue by considering it amongst the other issues which will influence them at the ballot box. It is as much a test of the democratic will of the people as is any other bill placed before the Deltarian parliament. On the other hand, if it were actually possible for the direct referendums to be carried out on constitutional changes, Labor would support such a referendum over bills like this. |
| Date | 04:12:15, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Democracy Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | The Liberal Democrats will now move this bill to vote. When deciding, we encourage parties to consider deeply the power of democracy, and as such, we encourage all parties to support fairness in Parliament and in the nation as a whole. |
| Date | 16:49:42, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Liberal Democracy Party | To | Debating the Administrative Act of 2086 (1002A) |
| Message | Moving to vote again. |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 43 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 44 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 13 |
| Random fact: If there are no parties in your nation with seats, feel free to visit the forum and request an early election on the Early Election Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4362 |
| Random quote: "Isn't it about time that the US government stop supporting dictatorships and avaricious oligarchies with our tax monies, munitions, and diplomacy?" - Ralph Nader |