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Bill: Socialist Reforms

Details

Submitted by[?]: Cildanian Socialist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2391

Description[?]:

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:19:49, April 18, 2007 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
MessageWe support every article in this bill. However, we would rather have the Federal Government provide child benefits for all families rather than devolving the issue to Local Governments. Other than that, we wholeheartedly give our support to this legislation.

Date23:39:50, April 18, 2007 CET
From Cildanian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
MessageLiberal Dems,
Does the child benefit look good now? We thought that devolving would be a step up from where we were and that as time passed the Federal Government could provide it, but we have decided to go ahead with it now.
-CSP

Date00:08:31, April 19, 2007 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
MessageWe supported it, we just would rather have the Federal Government manage child benefit for all. We do not mind starting small and building up, we just wished the Senate to know our position. We thank the C.S.P. for their cooperation and willingness to negotiate.

Date03:28:10, April 19, 2007 CET
From Divine Party of the Republic
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
MessageWe can't support #2 and don't like #5 especially

Date09:38:26, April 19, 2007 CET
From Justice League of Cildania
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
MessageOkay..... so help me get into the head of a socialist. You can't be secretly mad tyrants right? No of course not, but you must think you are right somehow. You must think that proposals like these will help people.

So what about the moral issues, like taking away people's money to pay for these programs or requiring people to work to provide for them? If any regular citizen did this, you would call it theft and slavery and have him thrown in jail wouldn't you? But since you're government, do you think it is then okay? Do you just ignore these issues? Or do you see them as acceptable side effects for your helpful programs?

Do you consider how these programs would realistically affect the economy? With the artificial price hikes and inevitable inflation of currency... Do you consider these consequences? Or is an imploding economy an acceptable side effect to your programs?

Help me understand, bills like this never make any sense to me.

Date14:43:23, April 19, 2007 CET
From Hebilon Mujahideen
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
Messagewe would support 4, 5 and 7, but cant support this bill as a whole

Date23:48:17, April 19, 2007 CET
From Hebilon Mujahideen
ToDebating the Socialist Reforms
Messageand, come to think of it, we would support article 1 as well, but still cant support the whole bill.

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Voting

Vote Seats
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Total Seats: 124

no
   

Total Seats: 301

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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