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Bill: Taxes
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2089
Description[?]:
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 20
Current: 45
Proposed: 0
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:57:34, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | Taxing profit is not socialist, socialist would be using those tax dollars to say, pay for health care, please get your information right. We agree that 20% may be too high, but see no reason to burden the government with a total lack of funds |
| Date | 19:32:46, July 28, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | I believe taxes should be only through sales tax. Which is different than this bill. |
| Date | 20:34:09, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | So you would rather tax a company that is running a loss? Since sales tax are before costs, and a tax on profit is after costs (less tax in this case). |
| Date | 02:00:13, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | We agree with the proposed tax proposal. |
| Date | 05:57:40, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | No, with a sales tax, you are not taxing companies. You are taxing the sales of goods. The stuff a company buys for their business (like computers for example) would be taxed, but not their profits. By only using sales tax, people can control for theirself how much they are taxed. If you dont want to be taxed, dont buy anything. Or buy only cheap essential stuff. But thats all another subject. |
| Date | 07:19:48, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Marxist Party | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | We should tax the profit of corporations, not apply that cost to the people. If the corporations raise prices in response, they raise profits and raise the amount of money taken away. it is an important tool in keeping prices down. |
| Date | 20:16:34, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | I dont see how it would keep prices down. If they raise prices they still make more money. Not taxing them would keep prices down since they would need less to make a profit. |
| Date | 22:11:13, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | Why would they limit their profit making? That makes no sense, they would charge what the market can bear, regardless of how they are taxed. |
| Date | 08:28:01, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Marxist Party | To | Debating the Taxes |
| Message | Yes, but sales tax is applied to the consumer. Profit tax is only to the business and cannot be effectively applied to the consum,er. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 126 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 127 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 2 |
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