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Bill: Religious Believes Act II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2403
Description[?]:
| To guarantee religious freedom of our education system. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:59:34, May 07, 2007 CET | From | Bündnis 89 / Die Faulenzer | To | Debating the Religious Believes Act II |
| Message | We thank the VBD for removing this article from the previous Religion bill. If one were to really encourage religious freedom in public schools, one should agree that keeping teachers from leading prayers is the best way to do this. Young children are impressionable, and often follow the lead of their teachers. If there is any chance that individual schools would allow prayer, that might counteract the idea behind the proposal. Religious schools have the right to offer prayers, as that is a central belief in what they teach and often a reason parents would choose to send their children to such schools. But for the majority of families which have children in public schools, the best way to teach about religion would be at home with the parents and not by teachers. We at the FB74 are willing to listen to all sides of the debate, but at this time are leaning against voting for this specific proposal. |
| Date | 19:24:39, May 07, 2007 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the Religious Believes Act II |
| Message | The VBD thinks that this measurement will encourage public schools to compete. This might sound a bit odd but it's to our believe that schools have to "fight" to get pupils/students. This means they have to offer all sorts of programs in order to interest parents and students. Schools will offer more individual tuituin for instance in order to differ from other schools. Parents can choose to which school they are sending their kids. Teacher-led prayers might be one of those 'unique selling points' but it's up to the consumer to decide. |
| Date | 00:03:24, May 08, 2007 CET | From | Bündnis 89 / Die Faulenzer | To | Debating the Religious Believes Act II |
| Message | For families which are not religious, or wish to make their own decisions regarding religion for their children, public schools can sell themselves with a content-based curriculum that centers on key subjects (math, reading, social studies, sciences). If we encourage college and university students to enter teacher training programs and then get them to work in public schools, parents will know that the highest selling point of public schools will be the valuable academic training their children will receive. There will be no doubt about the quality of content-based education in public schools. |
| Date | 05:54:16, May 08, 2007 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the Religious Believes Act II |
| Message | We might consider to publish the exam results of every school by a neutral organization. That makes it all quite transparant and increases the chance to make the right choice of school. Besides, these teacher-led prayers are only taken place at the start of every schoolday, so to us no big deal. |
| Date | 18:27:52, May 09, 2007 CET | From | Anarchista Kommunista Csapat | To | Debating the Religious Believes Act II |
| Message | We are against this measure for state-sponsered evangalism and endorsement of religious indocrtination. |
| Date | 05:53:20, May 11, 2007 CET | From | Bündnis 89 / Die Faulenzer | To | Debating the Religious Believes Act II |
| Message | We thank the VBD for their two recent religion reform bills. While the FB74 voted in the affirmative on part 1, we are going to have to vote no on part 2 (this particular bill). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 256 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 342 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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