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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of August 2404
Details
Submitted by[?]: Bicky Forever - MSCC
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2405
Description[?]:
| The BF is prepared to drop the current BF-II coalition for a BF-FFP coalition, because we think Ikradon deserves better! |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Bicky Forever - MSCC
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Lyika ati Isọdọtun
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:00:44, May 15, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2404 |
| Message | What about II launching a counterproposal? After all who'd want to support the totalitarian BF who wages political war for no good reason? We argumented our stance towards 199 seats in parlement, but BF's leadership just had to see it happen (till now we've seen 0 good arguments). BF is totally out of control... We of II wish to end the current legislature peacefully offering the good government Ikradon deserves, not the tiranny BF preaches. |
| Date | 10:25:23, May 16, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2404 |
| Message | We think this ridiculous statement of II even doesn't deserve an answer. Everyone can see that the "totalitarian" BF was prepared to grant its coalition partner some things (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=115860: a proposal to forbid gay adoption, introduced by the unrespectful words "is unnatural"). On the other hand, when we, as loyal coalition partner, propose another thing in which II never expressed their opinion about, they want a "compromis", actually by saying "no". II cannot say we are out of control, because we warned them openly government was up to fall if they continued saying "no" to the points we wanted to make, while we were expected saying "yes" to the most unrespectful proposal of II. We expect FFP sees through the cheap criticisms of II. |
| Date | 13:46:14, May 16, 2007 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2404 |
| Message | In all honesty, we have been appalled by recent legislative actions of both the II and the BF. We will join a coalition with neither. |
| Date | 14:01:35, May 16, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2404 |
| Message | The problem with debate in the current society is that everybody's right, people recognize the facts as they are, but fail to honor them. For example, II can state it was against gay adoption from the start, where we declared gay couples should live up to their choice which excludes children de facto. We transformed this into "gay adoption is unnatural" for IIs last attempt to change the law. Please tell me what on earth is wrong with saying "gay adoption is unnatural"? Is it unrespectful to speak the truth? BF supported this measure in the past, and did so now, till II failed to blindly accept BF's seat proposal. Suddenly BF started blowing bridges, playing around with its votes and this with an ethical bill in which it first stated "oh, kids should have equal opportunities". Let's toy around with childrens life shall we? And let's blame II for inciting towards this, cause they didn't support our bill, though offering a rewarding compromis. Just to give you a taste how anyone can manipulate the truth. Back on topic now, this answer is solely aimed at breaking the current legislature, hoping for a rash answer (see previous alinea for example) to keep an ongoing cycle of useless debate. We will refrain from any further comments on this topic. We insist that BF's leadership is out of control and that we wish to end the current legislature peacefully. |
| Date | 10:30:38, May 17, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2404 |
| Message | We regret FFP doesn't accept this fair proposal. |
| Date | 20:48:56, May 18, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of August 2404 |
| Message | II asked what on earth is wrong with saying "gay adoption is unnatural" and if it is unrespectful to speak the truth... Well, first of a:l: every adoption is unnatural I guess. Why on earth should gay adoption be more unnatural than any other form of adoption? And yes, sometimes it is unrespectful to speak the truth or saying what you think the truth is. If II contests any of these stances, we ask II to draw a resolution on the following proposition: "it is not unrespectful to say gay adoption is unnatural, because it is the truth". We think not one party would agree such point of view. We invite every party which does agree with it to post it here. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 170 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 274 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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