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Bill: Immigration Act 2088
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Imperialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2089
Description[?]:
| Noticing that under current law, anyone regardless of their intentions regarding the nation, use to the nation, or reason for entry is allowed to enter the nation. Although immigration is doubltessly important to the future of our nation, and we are not in any way proposing that we restrict ASYLUM, it seems ludicrous that any number of people from any nation in the world can freely enter the nation and live here without any legal limits in place. Therefore we propose that a system be implemented that allows workers needed by our nation and thier families to enter, but allows the government to control the rate of immigration, and prevent people who are not beneficial to the nation(such as terrorist suspects, criminals in other nations, etc) from entering. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:27:43, July 31, 2005 CET | From |  Grand Republican Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | For. Whilst we should allow refugees and persecuted people in to the country, we should only allow as many as the economy can support, and those allowed in should be those who can help the country as well as be protected |
| Date | 15:37:00, July 31, 2005 CET | From | Humanist Socialist Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | If capital is free to move, so then should the workers be. Against. |
| Date | 16:24:18, July 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | If, as you imply, people moving into our nation will be useful as workers then under my system they will be allowed in. What's your point? |
| Date | 17:09:19, July 31, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | We are strongly opposed to this proposal, people should have the liberty to move to and live in the country of their liking. |
| Date | 17:39:50, July 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | Even if their intention is to kill people in "the country of their liking"? Even if their intention is merely to live off of benefits, effectively stealing money from the hardowrking inhabitants of that nation? |
| Date | 18:10:47, July 31, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | We agree with the proposal |
| Date | 21:17:20, July 31, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | "Even if their intention is to kill people in "the country of their liking"? Even if their intention is merely to live off of benefits, effectively stealing money from the hardowrking inhabitants of that nation?" Excuse me, but where in "Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation." does it say anything about benefits? And terrorists will be imprisoned. Do you really suggest we treat all foreigners as criminals because SOME might be terrorists? |
| Date | 21:26:45, July 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | No, Im suggesting that we only let in people who will actually work and help the country rather than just sitting here. And obviously if someone is injured in our nation we'll give them healthcare no matter what, so why should people who wont work be allowed into the nation so that they can use services they havent contributed to? We arent against immigration - we're against useless and harmful immigration. Our proposal allows the former to continue whilst filtering out the later - ie the useless and harmful immigration. It also allows us to close our borders if supples run short, which we cant do with current legislation. |
| Date | 14:03:53, August 01, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | If supplies run short, we import. |
| Date | 18:14:24, August 01, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | And if it's a worldwide drought? Or if we cant afford to? Or if the world market dries up? Nations do run short of resources, you know. |
| Date | 21:26:53, August 01, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Immigration Act 2088 |
| Message | A worldwide drought is virtually impossible scientifically speaking. Or something should go terribly wrong, like a chemical or nuclear war... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 190 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 228 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 181 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
| Random quote: "The people who vote decide nothing. The people who count the vote decide everything." - Joseph Stalin |