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Bill: IP Child Pornography Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2407
Description[?]:
| Present laws would allow child pornography, and, as such, surely need to be tightened. This bill will ensure that all pornography involves adults, and not children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: All forms of pornography are legal for everyone.
Current: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Proposed: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for everyone.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:33:21, May 21, 2007 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | Surely there is some confusion here? |
| Date | 15:10:21, May 21, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | I dont see where? |
| Date | 15:11:11, May 21, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | And current laws does not allow child pornography, that was the old laws.. current laws allow pornography depicting consenting adults, as it say... |
| Date | 16:41:14, May 21, 2007 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | Sorry, I was reading your description which suggests that the present law would allow child pornography, which is not the case, as you appear to acknowledge. However, your proposal allows children to access pornography which is surely still not acceptable |
| Date | 18:26:25, May 21, 2007 CET | From | Imperialist Party | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | Child pornography is a form of pornography - ALL forms of pornography are legal under current law. Further, duly note how the wording of my proposed chance - pornography DEPICTING adults is legal for everyone. This implies (ooc: because particracy makes them separate options) that under current laws, pornography depicting people other than adults is legal under our present loose laws. |
| Date | 19:29:41, May 21, 2007 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | I think there is some confusion here (OOC: or I'm going mad). You will see under article 1 that there are 3 lines The first says OLD VALUE: which is the one you are talking about. but this is not the current law (I know it is confusing, I don't know why the game shows this value. this is what the law was before the last change. The current law is under the second line which says CURRENT: and is that Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults Your proposal is under the third line PROPOSED: and is that adult pornography is legal for everyone (including children) to view. It is actually therefore a retrograde step. That there is no doubt that what i am saying is right can be seen here (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=117039), which was the law proposed by the Conservative Party and passed by Congress in May 2107 which changed the law to what is currently. I remember this because we were forced to vote no to it because of the other proposal it contained on homosexuality. So to be clear, this proposal is not necessary and is a retrograde step from what we have at present and we do not support child pornography or the ability of children to be legally able to view any form of pornography |
| Date | 19:31:01, May 21, 2007 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | OOC: I'm not trying to be a pain or to simply sabotage your legislation, but you genuinely do seem to have made a mistake. It is however confusing and I fully understand why you made it! |
| Date | 23:58:32, May 21, 2007 CET | From | Imperialist Party | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | ooc: I am impressed that you folks can remember that after 300 (in-game) years! |
| Date | 00:10:08, May 22, 2007 CET | From | Imperialist Party | To | Debating the IP Child Pornography Act |
| Message | ooc: oh wait that was a typo. I just need to read the bills I vote on. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 45 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 303 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 253 |
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