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Bill: First FRUIT Manifesto -- Self-Defense
Details
Submitted by[?]: Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2409
Description[?]:
| Now that a new government has been seated, that government must prove its devotion to the Ikradonian people. To that end, we issue the following manifesto, that parties in support of it might prove their good intentions. These proposals deal with guaranteeing to Ikradonians the natural right to defend oneself. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Current: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Proposed: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Current: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Proposed: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Current: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Proposed: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:26:37, May 23, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the First FRUIT Manifesto -- Self-Defense |
| Message | This is a joke right, you will allow guns out on the street while our police force has to carry around "non-lethal" weapons. Further we are all in favor of the gunfree society. |
| Date | 19:00:46, May 23, 2007 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the First FRUIT Manifesto -- Self-Defense |
| Message | We are more concerned about the individual's right to self-defense than the maintenance of order. A "gun-free" society has proven unworkable as criminals will smuggle in guns regardless of the laws and social norms. If IB wishes to change the police laws, it i welcome to make its own proposal. We have made these proposals because we feel the right of individual Ikradonians to protect themselves from violence and tragedy, is paramount. |
| Date | 19:31:33, May 23, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the First FRUIT Manifesto -- Self-Defense |
| Message | So instead of arming our police force to fight crime, you propose to let the citizen to take matters in their own hands? Further we find the assumption that self-defence involves weapons de facto simply wrong. |
| Date | 22:08:40, May 25, 2007 CET | From | Tomorrow Party | To | Debating the First FRUIT Manifesto -- Self-Defense |
| Message | The Tomorrow Party finds it absurd that citizens would be allowed to carry firearms - unless, of course, they are tasked with defending Ikradon, in which case they should refrain from use of those weapons. While the idea of allowing self-defense rights to citizens is justified, these rights should be given to police as well. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 599 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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