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Bill: Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords
Details
Submitted by[?]: God's and the King's Fighters
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2409
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:37:17, May 24, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | As this treaty will surely pass in the Telamon government (495 seats for it, 71 against, 35 abstain), there is no reason why we shouldn't ratify it, even if the pro-Union parties don't like it, we have to stop this silly war. |
| Date | 16:51:30, May 24, 2007 CET | From | Sensible Parity | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | Ms. Dynamis hoped that Hutori has learned its lesson about rushing into imperfect treaties. Isn't that what got us into this mess in the first place? |
| Date | 16:57:25, May 24, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | The treaty is just imperfect to those who still think that the late Union is still alive. |
| Date | 17:01:08, May 24, 2007 CET | From | Sensible Parity | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | Ms. Dynamis understands that the government wants Sensible Parity's vote on this, but not Sensible Parity's input. This treaty was drafted over our objections and based on text that was shot down by parliament. Sensible Parity has been treated poorly by the government at every turn even though our support is needed for this to pass. Ms. Dynamis is beginning to wonder. . . is the government being intentionally rude to her party to trick us into voting no? Why would the government _want_ the treaty to fail? Although Sensible Parity is no longer the lead opposition party, Ms. Dynamis has issued a call for subpeonas of all government communications with defence industries and possible Telamon spies to identify why exactly the GKF-led government wants to kill the treaty. |
| Date | 18:10:54, May 24, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | The only reason this text was shot down, was that there was one mistake in it (naval shipping). This has been corrected. The Sensible Parity never said what else it didn't like with this treaty, but simply voted either no, or abstained. Therefore, the one Party that is killing this treaty without any reason, as we can easily understand why the Macon Nationalists are against it, is the Sensible Parity, whose "work" in this country has been nothing but destructive until now. |
| Date | 18:58:59, May 24, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | .Come on this silly war has been going on long enough, please don't scupper this project. |
| Date | 01:34:36, May 25, 2007 CET | From | Macon Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | "We're actually considering voting for ratification. We're a perfectly sane party with Hutori's best interests at heart. We need a promise from the government however (and we'll be asking Telamon's UCA about this as well) that the misuse of the word "nations" in the first sentence will never be misconstrued to indicate Telamon or Hutori's recognition of each other as nations in this particular document. That's all we want. A promise that these Accords are only supposed to end the war, and not grant either side recognition (or, on the other hand, deny) as being a nation." -Cecilia Roberts MNP, MP |
| Date | 01:34:51, May 25, 2007 CET | From | Macon Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | *(should say Chair, Roberts is the Chair of the MNP) |
| Date | 10:41:59, May 25, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | In this case, I'm afraid the text is quite clear. If the MNP still ceases to vote yes if Telamon recognises Hutori as a nation, and vice versa, there's nothing that can be done about this. - Aurelianus Archemid, Prime Minister |
| Date | 16:24:16, May 25, 2007 CET | From | Macon Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Ihmetellä-Ferescia Accords |
| Message | "Then the Accords will not pass and this war will not end. Blame can be laid at the feet of the obstinate opposition." -Roberts |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 101 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 149 |
| Random fact: When forming a cabinet, try to include as few parties as possible, while still obtaining a majority of the seats. |
| Random quote: "Any law which violates the inalienable rights of man is essentially unjust and tyrannical; it is not a law at all." - Maximilien Robespierre |