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Bill: Morality and Religion, 2410
Details
Submitted by[?]: House of Oranje-Magrathea
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2411
Description[?]:
It is through God that we may find salvation, and his teachings are the only way to save the morality of society. To further entrench this it is, therefore, necessary to establish the Catholic Church as Ikradon's state religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government position in respect to crossdressing policy.
Old value:: Crossdressing is allowed.
Current: Crossdressing is allowed.
Proposed: Crossdressing is prohibited by the state.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The legality of divorces (if marriages are recognised).
Old value:: Divorces are legal, be it mutual consent, grounded cause or if one partner wants it.
Current: Divorces are legal, be it mutual consent, grounded cause or if one partner wants it.
Proposed: Only divorces that comply with religious doctrine are legal.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 20:31:51, May 26, 2007 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | What religion exactly are you proposing that we adopt? Some outgrowth of Absolutism? |
Date | 23:16:37, May 26, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | Progressivism? |
Date | 06:55:05, May 27, 2007 CET | From | House of Oranje-Magrathea | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | OOC: I don't know Ikradon's religious make-up, can anyone elaborate? I guess I could just pick the majority religion and advocate it as the HOM's religion. |
Date | 13:22:11, May 27, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | We would support article 1. |
Date | 23:13:28, May 27, 2007 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | OOC: It's been established that Christianity exists in-game, with at least the Absolutist and Universalist sects of it. The Absolutist sect at one point organized as a political party and was rather strong. Universalist Christianity was not developed aside from being the religion of MUP/PET party chair Noelle Hart. I think a few other religions have been established as existing, such as Scientology (banned in the Luthori Empire to the south of us -- maybe there's a sizable refugee commuinty here?) and Aeternalism (a religion that my first successful Chancellor candidate belonged to). I've generally supposed that there are many religions in Ikradon and no absolute majority, but it's never been definitively established. If people want to RP that a certain religion has a large following and has become the majority, I wouldn't mind going along. Though the two I made up (Universalist Christianity and Aeternalism) were intended to be "small" religions, so I would ask that you not use those. |
Date | 23:14:48, May 27, 2007 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | Oh, almost forgot -- our second Chancellor was a Catholic, so Catholicism is established as existing in Ikradon also. |
Date | 23:48:18, May 27, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | When these three articles would come to vote, we'll say no. If you only propose the first article, we will support, as long as it is proposed in a respectful manner. |
Date | 00:38:33, May 28, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | Amuzing. |
Date | 04:15:45, May 28, 2007 CET | From | House of Oranje-Magrathea | To | Debating the Morality and Religion, 2410 |
Message | OOC: Then we shall RP a Catholic aristocratic family then. I will also separate article 1. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 563 | |||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 36 |
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