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Bill: Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry
Details
Submitted by[?]: (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2414
Description[?]:
| If we allow citizens carry any type of weapon freely we will end with another incident like the one that happened in February 2411 in Salnaeta |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Citizens may own any type of weapons, but certain types are restricted to designated places.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:03:26, June 06, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | What about the many communist freedom fighters belong to groups such as the P-SRA and UCF who are stationed here? |
| Date | 20:05:26, June 06, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | They don't get classed as a legal group so they can have illegal weapons |
| Date | 20:08:56, June 06, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Nonetheless, they will become much more difficult and expensive to obtain. |
| Date | 20:10:13, June 06, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | That Better |
| Date | 20:11:03, June 06, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Explain? Surely the cheaper and more easily available these weapons are to our revolutionary brethren, the better it is for us. |
| Date | 20:14:56, June 06, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | they can have them they just can' take them everywhere because schools and that are not owned by a person so the person cannot specify wether they allow weapons on or not but the can still own them |
| Date | 20:17:39, June 06, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | This new version is acceptable. |
| Date | 20:18:58, June 06, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | good hopefully it will receive the support from our fellow political parties |
| Date | 20:21:33, June 06, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | 1.5 seat majority, remember |
| Date | 12:22:04, June 07, 2007 CET | From | People's Liberation Front | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | and it will increase soon once i get my visibility up |
| Date | 03:20:10, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | No, the current policy is good. |
| Date | 17:58:45, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Good for what precisely? |
| Date | 17:59:56, June 14, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Read the incident in salneata in 2311 Capitalist |
| Date | 18:04:11, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | The current policy is good for security, of course. If criminals are worried that the little old lady they're about to rob is packing heat, they won't bother going after her. If there are any incidents regarding crime with guns, then that could just as easily mean that we need more police or even that it was one of those sad but eventual incidents that occasionally happen. |
| Date | 18:08:05, June 14, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | you are basically supporting what happened and are suggesting that we shoot anyone who looks like they have the remotest chance in robbing us |
| Date | 18:09:37, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Your argument works along the lines that having more nuclear weapons makes the world a safer place. Ludicrous. Anyway, for some reason I doubt the little old lady has a clue how to use her gun, and I'm sure Mr Thug knows that too. |
| Date | 18:10:43, June 14, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | so why are you saying she should carry it when you have just said that she wont use and so will the thugs attcking her you have completely contradicted yourself |
| Date | 18:11:26, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | I'm disagreeing with CfP, not you. |
| Date | 18:12:45, June 14, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | ok |
| Date | 18:54:21, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Well, nuclear weapons in the hands of responsible people do make the world a better place. The doctrine of mutually assured destruction has served the world very well. As to the HPSC's first argument, no, we're not saying that you shoot anybody that looks like they want to rob you. We're saying that you should shoot the people that are in the process of robbing you. Idiot strawman. Oh, and I'm pretty sure that an old lady knows how to fire a gun. It's not that hard. |
| Date | 18:54:26, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Commonwealth Party | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Weapons should not allowed unless profession needs it. |
| Date | 18:59:52, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | Oh, maybe the old lady knows how to fire the gun, but can she aim it? In the split second she has before she is helpless, is she really going to be able to react. Mr Thug, on the other hand is only to capable of shooting down teh police officers trying to arrest him. Oh, and since when were all nukes in responsible hands... ...Don't you just love those responsible North Koreans... |
| Date | 18:07:02, June 15, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Weapons that citizens are allowed to carry |
| Message | A nuclear weapon in the hands of a responsible person is still going to wipe out half of the world if it gets launched no matter who it is that fires and how responsible or irresponsible they are |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 219 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 132 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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