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Bill: Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414
Details
Submitted by[?]: Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2414
Description[?]:
| An Act to re-establish a Greater Hulstrian national identity card system to better fight crime, reduce individual frustrations, and generally enhance the quality of life of Greater Hulstrians. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are issued with identity cards on a voluntary basis.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:29:12, June 15, 2007 CET | From |  Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | Yes, we will take credit for coming up with a completely clever name |
| Date | 22:29:59, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | We are interested in why this is unacceptable to our colleagues in the Messengers of Doom |
| Date | 22:30:51, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Ehre und Treue | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | People should be able to decide if they want to have an identity card. But still they should be required to carry a card that states the race of the citizen/national. |
| Date | 22:32:52, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | We agree that under normal circumstances this should be the case, but in the current state of affairs in Greater Hulstria, we feel that this measure is prudent and necessary. |
| Date | 22:36:19, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Ehre und Treue | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | If you can argue in a convincing way, we'll vote yea. |
| Date | 22:39:27, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | Requiring citizens and nationals to carry identity cards, especially combined with the Population Registration Act, will allow for us to keep track of potential terrorists and criminals (i.e. the Mormons and Gishotoi) without too much of an infrigement on personal rights of law-abiding nationals. This will also decrease frustration with having to supply seperate identification when required to do so by private businesses, government agencies, and other groups where it might be necessary. |
| Date | 22:40:28, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Ehre und Treue | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | Convincing enough, I should say, though this won't be very good for my voting records and my visibility-stuff. |
| Date | 22:45:58, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | Statement from the Prime Minister: "Desperate times call for desperate measures. I presided over Greater Hulstria during the last Gishotoi uprising. We fell to communism within the following few months, and almost lost our monarchy in the process. I don't want to repeat that." OOC: Greene is only one of three PMs we've had in the last...35 or so years since the position was created. He's held it except for about 7 years of that. :D |
| Date | 04:06:36, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Crown Loyalists | To | Debating the Hulstrian Identity Establishment (HIDE) Act 2414 |
| Message | The Crown Loyalists must point out that the only reason the Gishotoi are potential Enemies of the Kaiser is because of the policy of Apartheid. That is not to say the Crown Loyalists would ever support extralegal measures taken against the Kaiser or his Loyal Subject, however we do understand the reasons for such things. With that aside, there are many reasons to vote no for this particular piece of legislation, both ethical and practical, so that is what the Crown Loyalists will do. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 443 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 161 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 115 |
| Random fact: The grey space in the east is populated by the forum-based countries, known in-game as the former colonies or the "Third World". These countries are managed by the Third World Coordinator but players can request control of individual countries in the Third World Control Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8302 |
| Random quote: "One day our descendants will think it incredible that we paid so much attention to things like the amount of melanin in our skin or the shape of our eyes or our gender instead of the unique identities of each of us as complex human beings." - Franklin Thomas |