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Bill: Discussion: Gated Communities
Details
Submitted by[?]: Lodamun Distributionist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2415
Description[?]:
| We are unclear as to why gated communities are currently prohibited. We propose that the government and also public firms should be able to set up these communities if they so wish. Please let us know what you think. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning gated communities.
Old value:: No gated communities are allowed.
Current: No gated communities are allowed.
Proposed: The private sector can set up gated communities.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:37:49, June 16, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | David Caresh anyone??? |
| Date | 09:19:46, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | Well, yes...I suppose that MIGHT be an argument against gated communities. To be honest, I think that was more like a few tightly locked buildings with a fence. I think the VAST majority of the communities we would be talking about would be rich people and government housing...things like that. |
| Date | 11:08:43, June 16, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | I'd like the LDP to explain why it thinks gated communities would be positive. |
| Date | 12:12:30, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Liberal-Conservative Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | There's absolutely nothing wrong with gated communities. Citizens have every right to a protected neighbourhood, if they feel that their neighbourhood is threatened by the myriad of community-corrupting elements of society. We speak, for example, of graffiti hoodlums, drug-users, drunken youths, gangs, prostitutes, pedophiles, rapists, muggers and burglars, just to mention a few. If decent, law-abiding citizens do not want the scum of society wandering through their local area, corrupting and defacing their area's untarnished name, creating a dreadfully unsafe environment for their children, and causing a general disturbance all round, why should they not have the right for a gated community? These are very, very logical and legitimate concerns and we feel that gated communities are a wonderful idea. That having been said, we would prefer at least the majority of gated communities to be established by the private sector, as aposed to the government. |
| Date | 14:06:35, June 16, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | gated communities destroy the sense of community. You do not build a strong nation by dividing it with walls. |
| Date | 14:15:04, June 16, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | URP has reconsidered and will support this bill if changed to private companies only can establish gated communities. |
| Date | 14:52:58, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | We will only support government gated communities. |
| Date | 18:08:49, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | Well, there you go. Okay...we need to hear out the rest of the legislature before seeing how to move forward, so we encourage everyone to weigh in. The LDP is fairly neutral on the governmental vs.private issue, but clearly the big 2 are (unsurprisingly) polarized. |
| Date | 20:06:09, June 16, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | I'm told I oppose every NP policy, yet I often vote before the NP and after my post, NP immediately has to post the exact opposite. I think it's the NP opposing me every step of the way and not vice versa. |
| Date | 07:23:21, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | OOC: have you considered the fact that YOU ARE ALWAYS ONLINE? I work weird hours and it doesn't matter, %80 of the time i see yug102 or whatever yugi oh themed log in name you have there at the bottem or second to last on the list. of COURSE you'll vote first, you're chomping at the bit to go first. We all think you vote his polar opposite because you guys are polar opposites. Anyways... IC: can someone bring up a scenario where the government would feel the need to set up a gated community? Tract housing and military bases are the only thing i can think of. I'm against the former as We believe that would create a kind of segregation and we're for the later as it would increase security. Although military bases may be exempt from this. As for private gated communities... let the rich live wherever, it really doesn't matter. And since most private frims would be creating this kind of community, fine. Go private only then, unless someone can think of something other than ghettos the government would set up. |
| Date | 12:23:24, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Discussion: Gated Communities |
| Message | We oppose most things you do because they are either Liberal or Capitalist, we are neither of them 2. However there is a few bills that we have supported that you voted first because I think its funny seeing so many seats vote together. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 402 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 197 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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