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Bill: Prisoner Rehabilitation Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2416
Description[?]:
| In order to rehabilitate prisoners, preparing them for eventual integration into society, prisoners will be encouraged to take on jobs in the correction facilities. This will provide correction facilities discounted labor and allow prisoners the chance to take responsibility for themselves and responsibly earn money to help them become active, useful members of society. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:56:12, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day. They're doing these jobs now. for free. because they're prisoners. Why are we paying them? Also, if we change this, it would be voluntarily. So assuming that even a percentage of the prisoners we have doing work now for free don't want to be paid, they rot in their cells leaving work previously done by prison labor to be either paid for in small stipends to prisoners or by hiring more prison staff. This is the element that needs the rehabilitation in the first place, the ones that would opt out. This would also increase the cost of our prison system. |
| Date | 07:58:03, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | The LDP has to agree with the Free Lodamese. We are fully in support of the idea of life skills being taught to prisoners, but the fact that it is voluntary is unfortunate. Sadly there is no choice that reads: "Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day. Certain prisoners are able to do a number of jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage." |
| Date | 08:48:29, June 17, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | FL perfectly stated how the URP feels as well. |
| Date | 09:48:55, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Liberal-Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | We fervently second the notions put forth by FL - we cannot support giving criminals wages. They have committed heinous crimes against society - why should they have the right to earn money? If they start earning money for jobs, it is virtually like putting them in a fenced off, miniature version of real society as opposed to putting them in what is supposed to be a punishing place where they are locked away, with nothing to do but to think about their crimes. And what things of use could they possibly purchase with that money in prison? |
| Date | 09:56:40, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | I believe the point that the NDP was making was that these jobs could be used to teach inmates life skills like maintaining a budget and keeping a job, etc. so they could later become valuable citizens later in life. The idea that prison is a place where there is "nothing to do but to think about their crimes" is draconian and fruitless. |
| Date | 10:09:30, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Liberal-Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | Fruitless? What IS fruitless is trying to rehabilitate criminals who are mentally incapable of rehabilitation; individuals who are mentally warped and who will never change their ways. No criminal serving a sentance of more than three or four years is going to be able to just find a steady job and live a normal life when they get out of jail - this is an idealistic hoax, and those who feel that everyone deserves a second chance, even those who have committed the most heinous crimes against humanity, are only kidding themselves. These people have committed their crimes due to their utter and complete lack of self-restraint and their mentally warped world perspective. If they are in prison for a period of longer than four or five years it clearly means that they have committed a serious crime, and a crime of this severity usually denotes that they are too far gone to be saved. The purpose of prison should not be to rehabilitate people, or to allow people to have jobs in the hopes that they will get out of jail and go work at the nearest supermarket, all the while refraining from their habitual murders. The purpose of prison should be to scare criminals, to instill a fear of prison so great that they will never commit another crime out of fear of going back. It should be a deterrant and a punishment - not an opportunity to earn money. And the purpose of prison should also be to keep serious criminals off our streets. Rehabilitation, in the vast majority of the most severe criminal's cases, is what's REALLY fruitless. |
| Date | 10:12:38, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | Ah...now I see. |
| Date | 12:10:17, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Prisoner Rehabilitation Act |
| Message | I dont see what else we can add that hasnt already been stated. Prisoners should work and re-pay society as they are a drain on society by being in prison and costing the tax payers. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 496 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 103 |
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