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Bill: Residential Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Capitalists for Prosperity
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2416
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: The state owns and maintains all housing.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: All housing is privately-owned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 19:55:52, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Commonwealth Party | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | i agree. |
Date | 11:00:35, June 18, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | i disagree |
Date | 12:38:24, June 18, 2007 CET | From | People's Liberation Front | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | people on lower incomes wouldn't be able to get a house with this |
Date | 12:38:50, June 18, 2007 CET | From | People's Liberation Front | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | any way the idea of owning your own peice of land is so american |
Date | 15:45:35, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | Thank you, PLF. I consider that a compliment, seeing as how I am American. Anyway, public housing projects never work well. People can only value what they earn themselves (in most cases). Public housing projects will just lead to slums. Besides, it's not the job of society or the state to provide a living. As for your concerns, people on lower incomes will simply move to areas where they offer lesser costing housing or renting. |
Date | 21:27:20, June 18, 2007 CET | From | People's Liberation Front | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | but the cost of housing is rising much much faster than the rise in pay. So they won't be able to. And councile housing works fine. |
Date | 22:06:55, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | Council housing does not work fine. Just come to the US and see what it's like in our public housing districts. As for housing costs, it just means that private companies will come along and build more houses until the housing bubble bursts and house prices decrease again. |
Date | 23:07:01, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | In the real world, the housing market doesn't work like that. Land is too scarce in populated areas, and urbanisation and immobilities prevent people from moving to other areas. As a result the market typically charges far higher than the "ideal price" that market-worshipers are so fond of babbling on about. |
Date | 13:28:11, June 19, 2007 CET | From | People's Liberation Front | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | you just don't understand. If you actualy experianced and saw these marvels of socialism like education, health care and housing. Have you ever been out side of america? Have you ever visited a former communist country and seen there health care? |
Date | 13:44:04, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | Like it or not, the PLF is right: former communist nation had excellent healthcare. True, you got it whether you liked it or not, but it certainly worked. |
Date | 16:00:56, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | Yeah, and you only had to pay extremely high taxes that discouraged foreign investment. Anyway, I'm not against state provided healthcare per se. I'm just against giving healthcare to the personally unaccountable which take up the most money. |
Date | 16:04:03, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the Residential Reform |
Message | Thing is, good healthcare usually pays for itself through the economic growth that results from it. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 331 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 74 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 30 |
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