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Bill: Agricultural Reform

Details

Submitted by[?]: Kibbutz League

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2417

Description[?]:

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:26:38, June 20, 2007 CET
FromHaLeumit Tikvah
ToDebating the Agricultural Reform
MessageThe CLP doesnt think its the governments job to be involved in either of these articles, particularly article 2.

Date18:15:14, June 20, 2007 CET
FromKibbutz League
ToDebating the Agricultural Reform
MessageIt isn't the government's job to ensure that Beiteynu has a stable agricultural sector? Oh of course not, as that would mean foreign swindlers could nto absue our nation.

The CLP is naturally, against Beiteynu.

Date19:12:06, June 20, 2007 CET
FromHaLeumit Tikvah
ToDebating the Agricultural Reform
MessageIt isnt the government job to tell people how to run their businesses. Sure, the evidence points to larger farms being more efficient and providing a bigger boost to the economy than several smaller farms, but that still doesnt give the government the right to tell them they should change the way they run their business, because at the end of the day they run the business for the benefit of themselves, not for the benefit of the economy.

So no, we are not at all against Beiteynu. We're just against laws which try to tell people how to live, and try to value one form of work over another.

Perhaps the Kibbutz League could explain what it has against small and certain other types of farmers?

Date20:19:13, June 20, 2007 CET
FromKibbutz League
ToDebating the Agricultural Reform
MessageSmall farms are inefficient when compared to larger estates. Any inefficient use of land harms the entire nation.

Consolidating them into larger holdings, under the DWC system, does not remove their share of a (larger) profit, nor does it remove them from decision making.

The Kibbutzim are founded entirely on the principle of consolidation into larger holdings.

Supporting self-destructive self-interest- the CLP.

Date20:49:57, June 20, 2007 CET
FromHaLeumit Tikvah
ToDebating the Agricultural Reform
MessageWe support the rights of people to do as they wish with their business and land. If they wish to merge into larger farms, then fine, if they dont, then again fine.

We dont support "self-destructive self-interest", were just prepared to allow people to make their own decisions, free from state cohersion.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 38

no
  

Total Seats: 117

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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