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Bill: Education Act. of 2090
Details
Submitted by[?]: Market Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2092
Description[?]:
| We, the Market Socialist Party believe that every individual should have the freedom of religion, that includes children. We do not believe a parent should force their children to attend a religious school and that every child should have the opportunity to attend a non-biased impartial school. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:53:41, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | We heartly oppose this bill. Restricting the choices of the parents do nothing to enchance the freedom of the child. Public schools, like all educational institutions can not be impartial by there very nature. So therefore since this bill proves neither freedom or impartiality it is a purely coercive unjust bill |
| Date | 07:10:27, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | The Market Socialists are not attacking private education in this bill...just religious schools. |
| Date | 07:23:15, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | The princple of privative education is that it is education not controlled by the state, this bill therefore by banning reglious schools goes againist the foundation of private education. Education is inherntly a part of free speach and we can't ban speech simply because we don't like it or it isn't scientificly accepted |
| Date | 08:24:01, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Nous-Mêmes | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | The Moderates feel that Religious Schools should be treated as if they were like all other Privately-run and funded schools: subject to some curriculum, space, and health minimums, but allowed to provide any additional educational themes/opportunities that they wish. As such, the Moderates will not support the outright ban of Religous Schools in Alduria. |
| Date | 17:26:59, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | The Market Socialist Party once again proves itself out of touch with a nation of devout voters. My own voters are calling for me to bring a bill to the floor condeming your party in the Senate. This is a great way to piss off the majority by banning Catholic schools which like Charter schools help to provide alternatives. |
| Date | 18:01:44, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | We are standing up for the rights of the children and the rights of minorities, because it seems that no one else will. What if a child decides that they do not believe in the religion of their parents? They must now be harrassed not only at home but at school too. What if a child is homosexual and must attend a Catholic or Baptists school they will be persecuted like none other. Though we recognize that, perhaps seculare or public schools are not totally un-biased and impartial we believe that they give children more of a chance to have diverse views and to mingle with other social, religious and economic groups. |
| Date | 19:00:32, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | What if the law were children under 18 were under the guardianship of their parents? What if the law basically said they went to schools their parents deemed appropriate because under the eyes of the law the children dont have the say on what schools they go to or whether or not they attend school in general...oh wait the law does say that. You've got a pretty close minded view of religious schools for someone who is touting greater religious freedom. |
| Date | 21:34:47, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | Religious freedom means not being subjected to other people's constant torrents of religious zeal. |
| Date | 21:52:55, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | Then dont send your kids to a religious school. Its optional. Its not mandatory. Honestly, now you're trying to tell parents where they can send their children to school. No one is putting a gun to your head or theirs. |
| Date | 04:48:53, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Aldurian Communist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | The Communist Party, while we may not approve of religion, we do not believe that the government has the right to tell parents where they can send their children to school. No one is required to go to a religious school, and no one is subjected to anything. |
| Date | 17:14:17, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | Yes, the children, who have little say in their affairs are subject to their parents will, every one should have the same type of schooling. |
| Date | 19:24:38, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | ...Yet you agreed with charter schooling as long as parents payed out of pocket for it. All education should be the same huh? Only when it comes to matters you dont agree with. As it stands now, this bill is dead in the water. |
| Date | 05:38:43, August 06, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | Hey, we will deal with charter schools later. When parents are paying for the charter school it is more likely that they will not send their children there. |
| Date | 09:08:13, August 06, 2005 CET | From | Market Socialist Party | To | Debating the Education Act. of 2090 |
| Message | Ok then I call this bill to the floor to vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 17 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 69 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 14 |
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