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Bill: Education Act: Article6, University Tuition
Details
Submitted by[?]: We Say So! Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2091
Description[?]:
| In order to allow a fairer system of tuition money paid to University Students a non-inflationary Government means tested loan will be introduced. Those students from disadvantaged families can gain up to the maximum permitted loan. This amount available to the students decreases with the income available to said students dependent upon the ability of either the student or supporting families. Repayment of loans will occur after the end of tuition, but not until the student is making over a minimum income (to be set at a later date once economics and currency is introduced). This payment will be removed directly from the wage of said former student and will be based around the income of said former student so as not to impinge on quality of life. Should Student not have repaid all, or any, of their loan by the time of retirement, then the loan becomes null-and-void and no payment will be requested. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes higher education tuition to a certain amount, the rest is covered by the individual students. This includes scholarship programs.
Current: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Proposed: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:19:35, August 04, 2005 CET | From |  United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | First of all, means testing is humiliating to those on low incomes. Secondly, this is providing education at a cost, and will discourage many low income families. We should be thankful that young Hobrazians are getting trained to enter the world of work and keep our economy going, so I think it's unnaceptable to possibly bludgeon them with debt for the rest of their working lives. |
| Date | 23:26:29, August 04, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | I tend to think this provides a fairer means of aquiring loans for an education. Lower income students will recieve the maximum amount and repayment occurs after they have some income so they won't be in debt paying back loans. I'm leaning towards supporting this. |
| Date | 23:30:01, August 04, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | First of all, this provides a fairer system of providing money to those on lower incomes compared to the system currently in operation. Secondly, how will it discourage low income families? They can be given, if needed, large amounts of money in order to pay for their tuition. This money is repayable only, and I repeat ONLY, if the student makes over a certain amount of income per annum. Should they never reach that amount (which would be a shame considering the amount of work they would no doubt have put into their education) they would not repay a penny. There would be no "bludgeoning" with debt for the rest of their lives, the repayments would be made at very small amounts, and this money could then be used to improve the education system for future generations. I fail to see the massive harm you believe this would do to the edcuational system. |
| Date | 23:34:03, August 04, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | Many people, after leaving university, end up carrying the debt for the rest of their lives. And I don't doubt that this will happen if someone just scrapes the cut off for such a sum paying back. I don't see this as a massive improvement from the current legislation. |
| Date | 23:39:27, August 04, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | But it makes no odds. This isn't a "pay back or have your home reposessed" loan. As stated it is a non-inflationatory loan that if not paid back by retirement gets wiped. If it's not paid back, then the student is no worse off and if it is then the money can be placed back into the educational system and help others. |
| Date | 23:48:07, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | This can help more students receive an education. The current law requires the students to pick up a large portion of the tuition. Lower income students will most likely recieve more money from loans rather than scholarships. They will be able to payback the loan as their means dictate. Small payments over a period of time once they reach a satisfactory income. |
| Date | 10:41:12, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Standing-At-The-Back-Dressed-Stupidly | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | We in the frocks think the 'we say so's are on the ball here...but will the debt be repayed in one 'block' once the student has reached a certain income, or will it be payed in small payments over a longer period of time? |
| Date | 13:00:26, August 05, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Education Act: Article6, University Tuition |
| Message | The repayment will be over time and set at a low amount each payment so that it does not adversly effect the quality of life of those repaying. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 208 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 160 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 32 |
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