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Bill: FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Teleurstelling Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2421
Description[?]:
| To reduce excessive wasteful federal spending. It is here by proposed in the above that the dispersement of cash payments to adults be ceased. This proposal does not exclude rent vouchers or food coupons. It eliminates 'cash' payments. Cash that can be spent on all manner of activities. Eliminating cash from the dispersement system will make all the less appealing to be on the State Welfare program. Federal Rent and Food coupons are still perfectly applicable to the poor, and far more difficult to abuse. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:39:55, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | AYE! |
| Date | 01:45:20, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | Representative Michael Murphy rises. It should be noted aswell that restrictions can be applied to the Rent and food coupons so that only nutritious food may be purchased as opposed to sweets and the lot. Rent vouchers as well can be issued for specific areas and or types of housing. This business of handing out cash must stop, and you will find that after a few weeks of someone producing brightly colored welfare coupons at the grocery store and being forced to endure the looks of the people around them they will be far less likely to remain on the program. I yield the floor. |
| Date | 12:32:54, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Christian Women's Association | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | This is unfair and will penalise those in poverty. Belinda Braithwaite (Leader of the LCWA) |
| Date | 14:40:28, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | How will it penalize the poor? The issue has been subsistance, and that is not removed. We do not suggest denying food or shelter. I see you have raised the objection, now support it. |
| Date | 15:01:07, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | Mr speaker, The Rt Hon Lady opposite doesn't know the meaning of fair. What would be unfair would be to take half a working man's income away from his family and give it away to someone who has done nothing to earn it! I yield. |
| Date | 16:45:43, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | OOC: This has been debated to death and passed only recently. This is ridiculous. |
| Date | 16:49:07, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | To the Rt Hon representative from the BCD, as well as the Lady from the LCWA. I first apologize for the outburst, However I would again stress this does not in anyway exclude food coupons or rent vouchers it merely removes just doling out cash that can be wasted on things which the state should be providing. While I will not take as extreme a track as my respected counter part from the BCD, I see nothing fair in your parties suggestion to seize 50% of a workers wage...50% Half of what they have earned. Earned. Yet it suppose that we propose making not working less then luxurious and we are unfair? The logic for objection escapes me, and indeed for the general stance of your party on the value of the worker being less then the value of the non-worker. If it is hard cash they wish, then earn it. If they want hand outs then by all means allow them to eat and have shelter...but I for one will not support emptying my wallet for someone who simply chooses not to work...and there are plenty who do indeed choose not to work. |
| Date | 16:49:17, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | I yield the floor. |
| Date | 01:37:57, June 29, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | HEAR HEAR! Applause. Cheers. |
| Date | 18:12:17, June 29, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | A chorus of hear, hears from the Pimm's benches. |
| Date | 04:49:18, June 30, 2007 CET | From | Crusader Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | *applauds* |
| Date | 10:41:12, June 30, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/6 Welfare Reform Act |
| Message | *Several Defenders enthusiatically greet the Crusaders, welcoming them back to the holy seat of the Empire and asking how their recent crusading went.* |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 59 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 35 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 6 |
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