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Bill: People's rights to gamble, or not.

Details

Submitted by^[?]: The Unified Lodamun Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2423

Description^[?]:

Local governments should have the ability to forbid gamblind in their precinct.

Proposal^[?] to change The right to gamble.

Old value:: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.

Current: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences.

Proposed: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	05:05:46, June 30, 2007 CET
From	The Unified Lodamun Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	There are a number of regions in our Kingdome who do not want to have gambling activities occur in their neighborhoods. Local governments should have the right to govern themselves.

Date	08:01:07, June 30, 2007 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	this is a freedom. local governments should not have a right to trample on the liberty of any Lodamese citizen.

Date	14:01:43, June 30, 2007 CET
From	New Democratic Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	We'd like to see only enough regulation to make gambling taxable. Any suggestions as to how this might happen?

Date	22:25:04, June 30, 2007 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	gambling is already taxed

Date	03:22:21, July 01, 2007 CET
From	The Unified Lodamun Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	No its not.

Date	05:00:23, July 01, 2007 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	what do you base this on?

Date	23:38:23, July 01, 2007 CET
From	The Unified Lodamun Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	I'm basing it in reality. How does the governemt tax us? Our income is reported to the IRS with forms. Gambling hsa no such forms, therefore its proceeds are not reported to the IRS. Obviously professional gamblers are watched closer, and audited more, but gambling itself for every person is not subject to taxation unless the private citezen chooses to report their winnings. I suppose it is considerably easier for the IRS to find gambling winnings if those winnings are paid for as a check, and while this happens sometis at race tracks however as a general rule gambling winnings are paid for in cash. I base my findings on reality, not some mumbo jumbo from your party.

Date	23:51:05, July 01, 2007 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	so how will this bill or any bill change that?

Date	07:59:27, July 02, 2007 CET
From	The Unified Lodamun Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	It won't, that's not what this bill is about. However, certainly localities could vote that no gambling could be done in their precinct unless it was done with chips and not with real money, and then only being able to cash out by giving their chips back to the casino, and then being forced to claim their winnings.

Date	08:34:25, July 02, 2007 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	that's idiotic. if there really is a tax problem here (which there isn't) how would creating a patchwork of laws across the 5 kingdoms solve this? Kregon could force everyone into some bizzare tax system and andalay could let everyone go without paying tax???

Date	22:13:23, July 02, 2007 CET
From	The Unified Lodamun Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	As is, most everyone is going without paying tax anyhow. However as stated earlier, this bill has nothing to do with tax. The URP dosn't want to discuss the merits or lack thereof of this bill, and it does give local governmental control which he supposedly champions, so lets see how he votes.

Date	22:15:26, July 02, 2007 CET
From	United Republics Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	i don't champion local rights most of the time

Date	01:43:46, July 04, 2007 CET
From	The Unified Lodamun Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	so, when your personal party page describes you as extreme small government, and you vote against big government bills at all costs, unless someone proposes them that you don't like, that's not championing small government??

Date	13:26:30, July 04, 2007 CET
From	Democrats
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	The small/big government refers to the role of the state. The Unitary/federalist bar refers to devolution between central and local government.

Date	15:49:54, July 05, 2007 CET
From	Lodamun Distributionist Party
To	Debating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Message	True, but he's still no federalist.

Vote

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yes

Total Seats: 127

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abstain

Total Seats: 21

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