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Bill: People's rights to gamble, or not.

Details

Submitted by[?]: The Unified Lodamun Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2423

Description[?]:

Local governments should have the ability to forbid gamblind in their precinct.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:05:46, June 30, 2007 CET
FromThe Unified Lodamun Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageThere are a number of regions in our Kingdome who do not want to have gambling activities occur in their neighborhoods. Local governments should have the right to govern themselves.

Date08:01:07, June 30, 2007 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messagethis is a freedom. local governments should not have a right to trample on the liberty of any Lodamese citizen.

Date14:01:43, June 30, 2007 CET
FromNew Democratic Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageWe'd like to see only enough regulation to make gambling taxable. Any suggestions as to how this might happen?

Date22:25:04, June 30, 2007 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messagegambling is already taxed

Date03:22:21, July 01, 2007 CET
FromThe Unified Lodamun Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageNo its not.

Date05:00:23, July 01, 2007 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messagewhat do you base this on?

Date23:38:23, July 01, 2007 CET
FromThe Unified Lodamun Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageI'm basing it in reality. How does the governemt tax us? Our income is reported to the IRS with forms. Gambling hsa no such forms, therefore its proceeds are not reported to the IRS. Obviously professional gamblers are watched closer, and audited more, but gambling itself for every person is not subject to taxation unless the private citezen chooses to report their winnings. I suppose it is considerably easier for the IRS to find gambling winnings if those winnings are paid for as a check, and while this happens sometis at race tracks however as a general rule gambling winnings are paid for in cash.

I base my findings on reality, not some mumbo jumbo from your party.

Date23:51:05, July 01, 2007 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messageso how will this bill or any bill change that?

Date07:59:27, July 02, 2007 CET
FromThe Unified Lodamun Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageIt won't, that's not what this bill is about. However, certainly localities could vote that no gambling could be done in their precinct unless it was done with chips and not with real money, and then only being able to cash out by giving their chips back to the casino, and then being forced to claim their winnings.

Date08:34:25, July 02, 2007 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messagethat's idiotic. if there really is a tax problem here (which there isn't) how would creating a patchwork of laws across the 5 kingdoms solve this? Kregon could force everyone into some bizzare tax system and andalay could let everyone go without paying tax???

Date22:13:23, July 02, 2007 CET
FromThe Unified Lodamun Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageAs is, most everyone is going without paying tax anyhow. However as stated earlier, this bill has nothing to do with tax. The URP dosn't want to discuss the merits or lack thereof of this bill, and it does give local governmental control which he supposedly champions, so lets see how he votes.

Date22:15:26, July 02, 2007 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messagei don't champion local rights most of the time

Date01:43:46, July 04, 2007 CET
FromThe Unified Lodamun Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
Messageso, when your personal party page describes you as extreme small government, and you vote against big government bills at all costs, unless someone proposes them that you don't like, that's not championing small government??

Date13:26:30, July 04, 2007 CET
FromDemocrats
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageThe small/big government refers to the role of the state. The Unitary/federalist bar refers to devolution between central and local government.

Date15:49:54, July 05, 2007 CET
FromLodamun Distributionist Party
ToDebating the People's rights to gamble, or not.
MessageTrue, but he's still no federalist.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 127

no
    

Total Seats: 451

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Total Seats: 21


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