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Bill: Make a good use of our military
Details
Submitted by[?]: Movimiento Cívico Justicialista
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2422
Description[?]:
| The Government spends a lot in recruiting, training and giving equipment to each one of our soldiers. Yet, unless we are at war, they just sit and do nothing. Why dont we make them back up the police, reducing crime significantly? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:25:29, July 01, 2007 CET | From |  Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | Great idea, let's send in the soldiers to shoot all the petty crooks. All those loitering youths and careless litterers. Yes, we must execute those enemies of our nation. |
| Date | 13:52:16, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Partido Laborista Socialista | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | The military should not aid the civilian force unless absolutely necessary. If it is used too much, the citizenary may feel that the military is given too much leeway to do as they will. |
| Date | 16:55:49, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Movimiento Cívico Justicialista | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | Trabajo y Libertad: you see, in this country the military is under civilian control. So, making them aid the police doesnt mean shooting and killing everyone. You can order them what to do, you know. It just means more numbers in the security forces. |
| Date | 22:47:53, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | Well really the military is under government control and the government is under civilian control, soldiers and generals are not elected. But that's not the point. The police are trained in policing. The army is trained in warfare. If you want I could propose a new budget that cuts military spending in order to increase police spending. |
| Date | 23:05:29, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Movimiento Cívico Justicialista | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | Well, that would be a good thing to do if the crime levels were high. But I dont think that this game has that kind of features. |
| Date | 00:19:47, July 02, 2007 CET | From | Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | True it doesn't. Based on that we could really cut the whole budget and be fine. But really what we'd propose is cutting both military and police spending in order to free up money for education, housing, healthcare and social services. |
| Date | 05:41:24, July 02, 2007 CET | From | NWOIAUCFCCNUCDMFSatanilicRepublicanParty | To | Debating the Make a good use of our military |
| Message | SRP Representative Rev. Marv: Great idea, let's send in the soldiers to shoot all the petty crooks. All those loitering youths and careless litterers. Yes, we must execute those enemies of our nation. This is exactly why we very strongly support this bill. It's a shame Trabajo y Libertad was joking. We thought for a moment there that they finally came to their senses. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 49 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 26 |
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